~10x bb, on the bubble, what is your push range?

[HonchoOverload]

Assume a typical table with no maniacs or crazy callers. I'm trying to determine whether my range of hands is correct.

Mine is AA-77, AK-A9, KQ.

[HonchoOverload]

also, assume you are first to act.

[citanul]

in about 10 more posts of your own, each adding a new piece of information or two, you might have the right amount to start making statements.

[citanul]

further:

go.

read the faq.

in the faq, read the part about icm.

go.

get a piece of paper and a pencil.

go to the online ICM calculator.

woops, go back, download pokerstove.

get acquainted with pokerstove.

now, use pokerstove and the icm calculator online, in conjunction with your pencil and paper.

learn.

profit.

bitch.

c

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further:

go.

read the faq.

in the faq, read the part about icm.

go.

get a piece of paper and a pencil.

go to the online ICM calculator.

woops, go back, download pokerstove.

get acquainted with pokerstove.

now, use pokerstove and the icm calculator online, in conjunction with your pencil and paper.

learn.

profit.

bitch.

c

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lol.. i bet you make children cry all the time.
Thanks for the advice though... I need to mess around with ICM+pokerstove a bit too. I use SNG PT during/after sng's, but I still feel like a noob.

[durron597]

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further:

go.

read the faq.

in the faq, read the part about icm.

go.

get a piece of paper and a pencil.

go to the online ICM calculator.

woops, go back, download pokerstove.

get acquainted with pokerstove.

now, use pokerstove and the icm calculator online, in conjunction with your pencil and paper.

learn.

profit.

bitch.

c

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This should have been 14 separate posts.

[bones]

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After reading (halfway so far) HOHE, there's a piece that would be very useful tool to many posters here on the forum. I highly recommend the book so far, and in particular, the piece I'm talking about is on pages 16-23.

Essentially, it sums up like this. An amateur is asking a pro for advice on a hand. The amateur, from memory, recounts what he remembers of the hand, which basicly comes down to an egocentric point of view - his cards, and his stack.

To the amateur, "his hand was the cards he held, and what the players immediately before and after him did. To the 'pro,' a 'hand' was a lot more than that. It's an entire situation, fulll of different elements, which has to be seen as a whole before good plays can be made."

So what does that mean to a regular Sit n Go poster on the forum here? (much of this has been taken right from HOHE)

Well, to me, the info that I would need to help give NL advice - in order - would be the following.

1. What limit are you playing?
2. What are the blinds (and beginning chip structure)?
3. How many players remaining?
4. What is your stack?
5. What are the stacks of the remaining players and their position?
6. Where do you sit in relation to the blinds?
7. Do you have any table reads?
8. What has been the action before you?
9. How many players remaining to act behind you?
10. Are there any relevant pot odds?
11. Will you have position after the flop?
12. Finally, what are your cards?

Without all this information, advice can vary greatly between posters. Without all this information, you are not considering the situation as a whole. Sit N Gos are not just about the cards.



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Courtesy of scuba chuck and the FAmotherfrickinQ.

[tigerite]

Each one with a reply from Honcho inbetween. That'd have been fun.

[tigerite]

You forgot: 13) Do you want to ship it holla?

[HonchoOverload]

who the hell can use pokerstove and icm while ten-tabling? FYI, I'm familiar with both.

[citanul]

1) there's no reason to use them while playing, it's not going to help you on the fly
2) they're good for post play use, you learn something
3) this is something i feel very strongly about: people who jump straight to SNGPT use without learning and even doing some ICM calculations by hand hurt themselves an their understanding of the game in a major way. working these things out and figuring out what it is you're asking when you're asking a question is how you learn.

c

[bones]

At the request of an anonymous member:

[HonchoOverload]

Okay, I will leave the forum now. Sorry.

[citanul]

jesus christ.