should i give this up?

UTG is taggish, BB fishy

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (8 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

On the river, I think it's safe enough to fold here. I can't imagine the BB not having a hand here. Other streets I like, and I usually hate folding on the river, but this just screams a big hand from the BB. Maybe you could find a fold on the turn.....I dont know, I'm still new to SH.



Tex

[adsman]

I fold the Turn.

[waffle]

definitely fold river second time around. think about folding the turn, and here you probably can since you know utg is a tag. what is his range after his flop raise given his pf action? you are probably dead.

[admiralfluff]

I would fold preflop.

I would 3 bet the flop (I don't know what you mean by taggish, if UTG were a TAG he would not limp from UTG).

If "fishy" means passive I would fold the river given the way you played it.

[waffle]

he's a .5/1 tag. he's probably following a PF chart for a full game, which might say to limp hands like KJ in MP.

you don't think i should complete with K8o?

BB had a mediocre hand iirc, UTG.. well guess.

[admiralfluff]

no.

in non-steal situations I would stick to full table guidelines for completing in the SB in these games.

[imported_leader]

I'm not completing K8o here either

[brazilio]

easy easy easy complete preflop. I give it up on the turn or call one on the river, but never two.

[imported_leader]

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easy easy easy complete preflop. I give it up on the turn or call one on the river, but never two.

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Both UTG and MP are limping better K's here, IMO. Also, A8 is a possiblity. Not to mention the pot is going to be 4-way. This complete is close not easy.

[admiralfluff]

how can this complete be easy easy easy?

is K5o close? What about Q7o?

Not saying I'm correct, but this is a clear fold for me.

[brazilio]

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how can this complete be easy easy easy?

is K5o close? What about Q7o?

Not saying I'm correct, but this is a clear fold for me.

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a pair of 5s is far far more vulnerable than a pair of 8s. Domination is much less of an issue in shorthanded than it is in full ring. K5o I complete sometimes, not often. Q7o I complete most of the time as well.

[Alobar]

I fold PF

I prolly fold turn

You can definitely fold the river the second time thru

[oreogod]

I like the complete.