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McGahee
11-26-2005, 11:45 PM
Poker just wouldn't be as much fun.

Paradise Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Qs Qc (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ah 9h (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.75 BB. </font>

SB: hehe
BB: did all i could
SB: agreed, that was a good one for the player notes for me
SB: calls any raise with a suited ace


So should I stop playing on Paradise now? I mean - I don't see how I can win with my cover having been blown so badly. Everyone knows the playbook on me now.
11-27-2005, 01:28 AM
Just call some rasies with A(x)o and blow their minds!!!!
11-27-2005, 03:16 AM
Yesterday I called a guy with king high when he donked every single street of every hand he was in.

Afterwards he said "Interest, that one goes down in the notes for you."

I laughed and then called him down with K high again.
11-27-2005, 03:36 AM
HE CALLED ME WITH KING HIGH!!!
http://www.psiframe.com/~jkwan/jackhigh.gif
baronzeus
11-27-2005, 03:50 AM
usually when i raise a decent but marginal hand, and im 3bet, i fold. makes it easier to play.
Entity
11-27-2005, 03:53 AM
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usually when i raise a decent but marginal hand, and im 3bet, i fold. makes it easier to play.

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You either misread his hand or you're getting so good with sarcasm that I can't even tell when you're being honest anymore.
SCfuji
11-27-2005, 03:55 AM
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You either misread his hand or you're getting so good with sarcasm that I can't even tell when you're being honest anymore.

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you know rob, there is a third answer. rawfullollerrrocketsJKplzdontbanme.
11-27-2005, 06:10 AM
i raise the flop
11-27-2005, 06:15 AM
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i raise the flop

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Failing that, I raise the turn.
baronzeus
11-27-2005, 06:16 AM
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usually when i raise a decent but marginal hand, and im 3bet, i fold. makes it easier to play.

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You either misread his hand or you're getting so good with sarcasm that I can't even tell when you're being honest anymore.

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lol sry i was being totally sarcastic. i dont think theres every been a hand where ive raised, been 3bet, and i folded pf.
McGahee
11-27-2005, 03:02 PM
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i raise the flop

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Good for you - you're getting a free card against a PF 3-bettor like 20% of the time on this board.
threeonefour
11-28-2005, 03:01 AM
wha? personally i raise and cap if 3bet this flop for the free card. i don't play stakes this low but i think that should be standard. if he just calls my raise i will even bet the turn if i am up against a player who is weak/tight and has a low went to SD stat.
McGahee
11-28-2005, 11:06 AM
While this is about the best flop I could've hoped for, the flush draw still doesn't give me enough equity against his range of hands HU. The parlay of hoping he has AK and also hoping that he'll fold it before the river just seems ridiculous to me, unless you plan on following thru with a river bluff? I'd rather just raise when I hit my flush - there'd be no reason for him to give me credit for it. I'm glad you don't waste your time at such petty stakes, but your line is spewing IMO.
Solami17
11-28-2005, 12:23 PM
So what you are saying is that you have a tight image that got blown bc you raised out of position with a marginal hand? As a tight player myself, I will occasionaly do the same thing because more players respect my raise. If they do catch you like this, though, they are more likely to be calling you down with weaker hands suspecting they have you beat. Take advantage of this by playing tighter!
threeonefour
11-28-2005, 12:43 PM
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While this is about the best flop I could've hoped for, the flush draw still doesn't give me enough equity against his range of hands HU. The parlay of hoping he has AK and also hoping that he'll fold it before the river just seems ridiculous to me, unless you plan on following thru with a river bluff? I'd rather just raise when I hit my flush - there'd be no reason for him to give me credit for it. I'm glad you don't waste your time at such petty stakes, but your line is spewing IMO.

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i respect your line but i think my line has its merits. especially since i play a generally more aggressive game. people know that when i cap the flop its not necessarily a huge made hand so i get people paying me off for more big bets than they might otherwise when i do have a made hand.

i also think you are underestimating how many hands the villian could have that missed. or hands that won't make it to showdown often enough if you put the aggression on.

your point about not having enough equity. i am almost 100% sure you have enough equity if you can just get a free card a fraction of the time.


EDIT: i just want to say that the BB range should be pretty big. i mean its folded to the hijack, who raises, and the BB reraises. its not like the BB raised an UTG raiser.
sfer
11-28-2005, 12:45 PM
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HE CALLED ME WITH KING HIGH!!!
http://www.psiframe.com/~jkwan/jackhigh.gif

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Calling with King high expecting to win and winning rules. I did it with Ten high the other day. That ruled too.
sthief09
11-28-2005, 01:47 PM
i got called by 3 high yesterday (obviously double paired board with the guy holding 22) and 75-high on an unpaired board, and I bet Q9-high and won

calling with T high is impressive
sfer
11-28-2005, 01:49 PM
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i got called by 3 high yesterday (obviously double paired board with the guy holding 22) and 75-high on an unpaired board, and I bet Q9-high and won

calling with T high is impressive

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Nine high no good.