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GrunchCan

11-26-2005, 08:05 PM

My push on the river when I knew I should call is a symptom of my biggest problem right now. Now to figure out why I did that...

Anyone else do stuff like this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($21.45)
Button ($17.10)
SB ($50.10)
Hero ($76.70)
UTG ($5.30)
UTG+1 ($93.95)
MP1 ($20)
MP2 ($49.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) checks, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1, UTG folds, MP1 folds, Button calls $1.

Turn: ($5.50) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($5.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, Button folds, SB raises to $10, Hero raises to $75.2, SB calls $38.60 (All-In).

Final Pot: $129.30

Maulik

11-26-2005, 08:07 PM

We've all done it before and we'll do it again.

It's not terrible if you have a GOOD read.

amoeba

11-26-2005, 08:09 PM

that min 3 bet should worry you but it doesn't.

this is bad.

AKQJ10

11-26-2005, 08:15 PM

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Anyone else do stuff like this?

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Indeed. Well, I'm not sure how broadly you're defining "stuff like this", but I do make impulsive pushes at times when they logically don't figure to pay off. For example, the other day i check/raised A9s for half my stack then pushed the turn (http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=174847) on an A75 flop with one of my suit and no real reason to think I could get the bettor out of the hand with a better hand or get him to call with a worse one.

In that case, I had been check-raised for a lot by someone else with TPMK and for some reason I thought the Villain of that hand was taking shots at me. So that was the reason for my dubious judgment there, and I assume that identifying the problem is half the battle to fixing it.

In general any time I make a greatly unorthodox play in response to some "read", it's usually an overreaction and a questionable read to begin with. If I make a marginal play (call with an underpair against what I think is a big bluff bet on the river), it's often right. Go figure.

whittiphil

11-26-2005, 08:16 PM

Yeah we've all done it. I really hate calling and seeing he has A7, but it's definitely a call.

GrunchCan

11-26-2005, 08:17 PM

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that min 3 bet should worry you but it doesn't.

this is bad.

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It did worry me. I knew exactly what he was saying, "I have a full house!" But I chose to act in a way that is just wrong. Like he would actually fold a full house. Yea, right.

But I remember talking myself in to pushing by saying, "bah! he just has an ace! I can stack him if he does."

Stupid, stupid, stupid...

I dont do this as often as i used to. But I still do it, and it's always very stupid.

BobboFitos

11-26-2005, 08:32 PM

your flop call is bad

GrunchCan

11-26-2005, 08:43 PM

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your flop call is bad

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Yea, I know. This was actually a thin call on purpose, becasue my read on SB up till now told me I had implied odds to hit a straight. I had a very strong read that SB would eagerly pay off if I hit.

Edit: I think that the people yet to act behind me, and the chnce that they may raise & have position on me, overrides the implied odds, and i should have folded.