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AndrewtheBold
11-26-2005, 07:22 PM
I know the topic of swings has been discussed at length, but I have a question that is not posed quite as often.

Rather than looking at a "swing," that is, a high point compared to a low point, I want to ask about "plateaus," or breaking even after x hands.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what a typical plateau looks like? Personally, my situation is that I believe I am theoretically beating my game soundly but I am about even after 6000-8000 hands. Anyone care to comment?

GoblinMason (Craig)
11-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Yeah, you'll have worse. Get used to it.

tolbiny
11-26-2005, 07:39 PM
I've had a 30k hand strech wher i was basically break even. Never got more than -200 bbs, and never more than +150bbs. They happen.

beaster
11-26-2005, 09:30 PM
Yep, I just went through a "plateau" as well. Mind you, there was a couple +/- 100BB runs in there, but over 50k hands, a graph definitely gives the impression of a plateau. Finally snapped out of it recently, and I'm back on an upward trend.

So yeah, I think it happens.

krishanleong
11-26-2005, 09:39 PM
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Yeah, you'll have worse. Get used to it.

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Perfect.

I broke even for about 55K hands. I don't hold the record.

Krishan

11-26-2005, 11:38 PM
to the more experienced players that responded here, how much of your plateaus do you attribute to play rather than variance?

11-27-2005, 06:42 AM
I'm going through a horrible one too right now, about 30K hands so far. It REALLY sucks. Here's a graph of the last 50K or so:


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8813/graph2ts.jpg

This is the longest breakeven stretch I've ever had so far. Just gotta play through I guess. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

GoblinMason (Craig)
11-27-2005, 08:35 AM
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I broke even for about 55K hands. I don't hold the record.

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Daddy, No! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

krishanleong
11-27-2005, 11:19 AM
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I'm going through a horrible one too right now, about 30K hands so far. It REALLY sucks. Here's a graph of the last 50K or so:

This is the longest breakeven stretch I've ever had so far. Just gotta play through I guess. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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Do you have trouble with the concept of breakeven? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Krishan

augie00
11-27-2005, 11:28 AM
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to the more experienced players that responded here, how much of your plateaus do you attribute to play rather than variance?

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During this month I have (and still am in) close to a 40k hand break-even stretch. I feel like I'm playing better than I've ever played before.

augie00
11-27-2005, 11:29 AM
Yeah, nothing like a 30k breakeven stretch where you win 200 BB. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Claunchy
11-28-2005, 03:30 AM
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Yeah, nothing like a 30k breakeven stretch where you win 200 BB. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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At 25k hands he's at 500BB...at 55k hands he's at like a millimeter above 500BB. Millimeter < 200BB.