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Surfbullet

11-26-2005, 07:10 PM

limper is 65/5 bad.
SB is 26/10 TAGy.

Haven't been at the table long so no hand-reads.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $20.
4 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets, CO raises, Hero folds...

Weak-tight or bet-saving?

mscags

11-26-2005, 08:05 PM

No way I fold this, I think this is a little too weak tight. One of them could easily be raising w two pair trying to represent the straight. Second player could be raising with bottom end or also some type of flushdraw/pair. I just call down unless another heart hits

Danenania

11-26-2005, 08:28 PM

Good fold imo. Looks like your best case scenario is a split and this could cost you many more bets to get to showdown.

AceHigh

11-26-2005, 08:34 PM

Weak tight unless CO is super passive.

11-27-2005, 02:59 AM

Let's think about possible hands they had.

The SB re-raised the Button preflop. He most likely had AA, KK, or AK. He then led out on the 10-high flop and only called the button's raise. He then led out on the turn when the Jh hit. Why would he lead out knowing he was going to be raised?

Wouldn't CO have raised pre-flop if he had big pocket pairs or AK or AQ prior to Button raising? Very likely he had Ax suited or KQ. And why did CO raise that SB bet? If he made the nut flush, why would he want to drive out Button and SB? My guess is he hit a straight and wanted to drive out anyone on a 4-flush.

Thus, my guess is that SB had AKh or AQh, and CO had something like KQ offsuit, or maybe even QJ like you.

I believe at best you were chopping the pot, but most likely losing to either a K high straight, or nut flush. This is Party Poker after all /images/graemlins/smile.gif. imo, you made the right call (or fold in this case).

DrGutshot

11-27-2005, 03:48 AM

I like it.

-DrG

baronzeus

11-27-2005, 03:50 AM

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you're splitting with 2 opponents at best, and at worst you're drawing dead.

imported_stealthcow

11-27-2005, 07:53 PM

i <3 your avatar

11-27-2005, 11:52 PM

Yes fold--you are beaten given the aggression you've shown on the flop. One player may try to run you off your hand but the pot is protected. You are also vunerable to a redraw if in fact you are ahead; you are drawing dead to a flush while the river could easily give one of your opponents a better hand.

Alex/Mugaaz

11-28-2005, 12:34 AM

Honestly, I fold this when I'm playing well, and if I'm stuck I will delude myself into calling and then berate or congratulate myself later. That's as honest an answer as I can give.

bobbyi

11-28-2005, 05:01 AM

I'd play this the same.

Surfbullet

11-28-2005, 05:09 AM

Nice.

Results:

SB had QQ and CO had K7s for the 2nd nut flush. SB got to rant + rave in the chatbox for awhile. I just smiled.

Surf