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Freudian

11-26-2005, 02:37 PM

Hand 1.

No significant reads. They didn't seem like 2+2ers or total donks. Somewhere in between.

Raise preflop? Push on the flop? The overbet and coldcall smelled funny to me.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Button (t615)
Hero (t670)
BB (t3045)
UTG (t920)
MP (t1415)
CO (t1335)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, CO calls t30, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t200, CO calls t200, Hero folds.

Turn: (t490) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, CO bets t30, BB calls t30.

River: (t550) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, CO bets t300, BB calls t300.

Final Pot: t1150

Hand 2.

Call this river? Fire again on the turn? Villain seemed a bit donkish.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

UTG+1 (t1525)
Hero (t990)
MP2 (t800)
CO (t1765)
Button (t380)
SB (t1000)
BB (t525)
UTG (t1015)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, Button calls t90, 2 folds.

Flop: (t225) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t100, Button calls t100.

Turn: (t425) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t425) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t190, Hero calls t190.

Final Pot: t615

tigerite

11-26-2005, 02:42 PM

I would raise preflop on hand one. On the flop, meh, that's one hell of a sticky situation. I think a fold is probably the most prudent option this early.

Hand two I don't like a cont bet on this flop much. There's no draws, so all he's going to call you with is a hand that has you beat, surely? I think the line you took you should fold the river here.

Jakob

11-26-2005, 02:42 PM

hand 1. I push after the flop
hand 2. I would bet a little more after the flop, ant then go into check-fold mode if I dont improve!

Freudian

11-26-2005, 02:45 PM

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I would raise preflop on hand one. On the flop, meh, that's one hell of a sticky situation. I think a fold is probably the most prudent option this early.

Hand two I don't like a cont bet on this flop much. There's no draws, so all he's going to call you with is a hand that has you beat, surely? I think the line you took you should fold the river here.

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Hand 2, if he wasn't so shortstacked I would have folded. It is possible I should have anyway. I think a fold might be better here.

dseiko

11-26-2005, 02:59 PM

Hand 1 I complete pf (no raise) - but on the flop i push. The majority of the time im pretty sure were ahead.
Hand 2 I make the bet on the flop, but after the call ill fold to a bet on the turn/river if i don't improve

tigerite

11-26-2005, 03:31 PM

That's a very good point - looking at that, I may well push the flop actually.

bones

11-26-2005, 03:36 PM

Hand 1: Check-raise all-in.

Hand 2: That's a pretty dry flop for him to call the flop but not make a play on the turn at you once you showed weakness. I probably fold to his river bet, but I don't hate calling all that much.

Freudian

11-26-2005, 04:02 PM

Results: 
Hand 1: BB has 77 and CO has KK (!)
Hand 2: Button has 44 for the flopped full house.

11-26-2005, 04:16 PM

Hand 1. Raise to 90-100 preflop and if you still get two callers, I'd put it all-in on the flop instead of checking.

Hand 2. Some would consider your continuation bet on the flop as standard but since you didn't improve by the turn, check fold the river. Villain (IMO) is most likely value betting with what he feels is the best hand.

lastchance

11-26-2005, 04:21 PM

Hand 1: You got really lucky. I would have gone broke, every time by either pushing preflop, check-pushing the flop, or betting and reraising the flop. Probably lose by check-pushing.

Hand 2: I don't know, this is a tough spot. Small stack could have anything... I guess I call, but I don't know who plays a hand like that. PS. Shoulda figured it for a monster.

handsome

11-26-2005, 04:21 PM

I play Hand 1 the same way. Hand 2 I bet out 150 on the flop and check-fold on future streets.

tigerite

11-26-2005, 04:24 PM

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Hand 1: You got really lucky. I would have gone broke, every time by either pushing preflop

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You can't seriously be saying you push preflop here at 15/30. With one limper. No way, that is just a huge leak.

Freudian

11-26-2005, 04:29 PM

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Hand 1: You got really lucky. I would have gone broke, every time by either pushing preflop, check-pushing the flop, or betting and reraising the flop. Probably lose by check-pushing.

Hand 2: I don't know, this is a tough spot. Small stack could have anything... I guess I call, but I don't know who plays a hand like that. PS. Shoulda figured it for a monster.

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Hand 1: If BB hadn't overplayed his hand and instead just bet 100, I would definately have gone broke since my plan was to c/r. As a basic rule of thumb, I will gladly assume one player is acting like an idiot but if I have to assume two or more do it, I will be much more careful.

Hand 2 I think I get an ok price for my call, simply because donk small stacks can have pretty much everything. I wouldn't be shocked to see him play this way with AJ.