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Surfbullet
11-26-2005, 03:51 AM
Villain is very aggro. Known to semibluff frequently, and bluff rarely.
87/35/2 over 80.

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Preflop: Surf is MP with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Surf raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Surf raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Surf bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (8 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Surf bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Surf calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB
11-26-2005, 04:44 AM
You'll lose often here. You'll also win way more often than 1 in 11.
redbeard
11-26-2005, 04:58 AM
i agree at 11 to 1 you'll catch enough ace hands that you have outkicked to make it worth the call, but i'm sure it is pretty close. i'd say with ace ten kicker it might become a fold.
11-26-2005, 05:02 AM
Not to this guy. Kicker isn't the issue when he's playing 87% of his hands (with a 2.0 PFA no less). Random ass-hattery is the issue. The guy's obviously a moron. I expect his raise to be completely moronic at least 10% of the time. Probably more. 73o FTW.
redbeard
11-26-2005, 05:06 AM
good point. those are moronic stats. i think any ace needs to call a raise here after bryce pointed out the true craziness of the villan's stats.
mscags
11-26-2005, 05:13 AM
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bluff rarely.

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Seems like an easy fold to me. What am I missing?
imported_ncray
11-26-2005, 07:10 AM
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i agree at 11 to 1 you'll catch enough ace hands that you have outkicked to make it worth the call, but i'm sure it is pretty close. i'd say with ace ten kicker it might become a fold.

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Surf's line also resembles that of a mid pocket pair such as TT. If villain had a weak ace, the c/r would be for value. I call this almost every time.
Surfbullet
11-26-2005, 07:17 AM
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i agree at 11 to 1 you'll catch enough ace hands that you have outkicked to make it worth the call, but i'm sure it is pretty close. i'd say with ace ten kicker it might become a fold.

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Surf's line also resembles that of a mid pocket pair such as TT. If villain had a weak ace, the c/r would be for value. I call this almost every time.

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This was my thinking as well, I still don't know if it's right though. His sheer aggression is staggering given the %age of hands he plays, which makes me want to call this down. On my best day ever (yesterday) i'd call and win vs Ax. On the worst day ever (today) I call and lose to... 64o.

Surf
zephed
11-26-2005, 07:26 AM
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bluff rarely.

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Seems like an easy fold to me. What am I missing?

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Sample size is not very large.
baronzeus
11-26-2005, 07:29 AM
whatever, you lose here a lot. its still an easy call imo...i dont know what else to say, ncray said it well..this could be a weak ace easily.