Common situation - What's my plan?

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

Generic 50/15/2 semi thinking lag.

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Hero ($694.20)
MP ($419.18)
CO ($193.70)
Button ($486.30)
SB ($391.30)
BB ($400)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($22) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...<font color="#CC3333">

[Mercman572]

Raise full pot, unless you think villain will come over the top if you half pot it. If so, bet half pot and 3 bet when raised.

[amoeba]

I bet 20.

theres a wide variety of hands I bet 20 with.

if he is thinking lag, there are overpairs in his minraise range here and he'll often raise. also most flush draws are of the 2 overcard variety thus he may also raise.



I think I played some with you today.

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

Thanks for the advice...Yes, we did play today. If it's not too much trouble, feel free to post any hands that I played like a donk.

-Craig

[amoeba]

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Thanks for the advice...Yes, we did play today. If it's not too much trouble, feel free to post any hands that I played like a donk.

-Craig

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we didn't tangle much today so I don't really see anything.

[Allinlife]

raise preflop

Mix check raise and leading in these spots..

[Mercman572]

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raise preflop

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hmm really? Can you explain please?
I almost never raise this UTG, especially with a thinking lag behind me. Most times a thinking lag will call a C-bet to take away on the turn and that's not usually good for ducks.

[ajmargarine]

I'm limping this almost always. Most of the time I will just lead it. Depending on table image, I may c/r if I got caught c/r'ing with air recently. C/r's usually shut down all action, and I want to get as much in the middle as I can. Against certain villians I would 3-bet if he raised my flop bet. Against others, I would call his flop raise, and then c/r the turn, or just plain lead the turn sometimes. Depends. But the safe thing to do is bet every chance you have the option to bet.

[xorbie]

HU you kinda have to just lead and hope for the best. Thinking LAGs will often (or sometimes) call and bet the turn if checked to, so that's your best plan. Let him think he's outplaying. They love that (at least I do /images/graemlins/wink.gif).

[soah]

It depends on what his hand range is, what he thinks you limp UTG with, what he'll do with various hands if you check, what he'll do with various hands if you bet, what he'll do on the turn with those hands depending on what you did on the flop... which in turn is influenced by what happened on all the other hands you played against him.

On this type of board there aren't going to be many hands that he's going to want to put a lot of chips in with besides bigger sets and draws, unless you're lucky enough to catch him with 99 or something. Sometimes I just start shoving money in the pot here and hope something good happens. Sometimes I'll take it slow and hope the clubs miss and "bluff" the river. It just depends...

[emil3000]

Raising 22 preflop with a decent 50VPIP LAG behind you is not going to end well in most of the cases in my experience.