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jj_frap

11-25-2005, 11:07 PM

Hand 1:

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Hero ($49.50)
MP2 ($18.50)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($10.55)
SB ($24.20)
BB ($13.50)
UTG ($44.50)
UTG+1 ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2, Hero raises to $5.5, MP2 calls $5.50, CO calls $5.50, Button raises to $10.05, SB folds, BB raises to $13, Hero raises to $49, MP2 calls $12.50 (All-In), CO folds.

Turn: ($98.55) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($98.55) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $98.55

Results:


*** SHOW DOWN ***
jj_frap: shows [7d Jd 9h Kh] (a straight, Six to Ten)
MILANSTARS: mucks hand
jj_frap collected $9.85 from side pot-2
Blink: shows [7s Qh Tc Td] (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
Blink collected $8.40 from side pot-1
BlueSeater: shows [3c As Ah Qc] (a full house, Aces full of Eights)
BlueSeater collected $46.30 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $67.55 Main pot $46.30. Side pot-1 $8.40. Side pot-2 $9.85. | Rake $3
Board [Ts 6c 8d Ad 8s]
Seat 1: jj_frap showed [7d Jd 9h Kh] and won ($9.85) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 2: MILANSTARS mucked [Js 9d Ac 5d]
Seat 4: ekaym folded on the Flop
Seat 5: BlueSeater (button) showed [3c As Ah Qc] and won ($46.30) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
Seat 6: #1FishGuy (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Blink (big blind) showed [7s Qh Tc Td] and won ($8.40) with a full house, Tens full of Eights
Seat 8: pencil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Yblluff folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Hand 2:

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MP1 ($54.15)
MP2 ($25.20)
CO ($18.90)
Button ($18.75)
SB ($48.50)
Hero ($145)
UTG ($29.60)
UTG+1 ($48.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 (poster) checks, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.4, MP1 calls $2.40, MP2 folds, CO calls $2.40, SB folds.

Turn: ($9.70) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $9.25, MP1 calls $9.25, CO calls $9.25.

River: ($37.45) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $35.6, MP1 folds, CO calls $6.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $79.80

Results:


*** SHOW DOWN ***
jj_frap: shows [Kd 2h 8d 6h] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
booker73: shows [8h 5d Th 9h] (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
booker73 collected $48.50 from pot
jj_frap said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.95 | Rake $2.45
Board [8c 2c 8s 3s 5s]
Seat 1: Swordfish77 folded on the River
Seat 2: francois413 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: booker73 showed [8h 5d Th 9h] and won ($48.50) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
Seat 4: Mongolito (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Pokerdanny (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: jj_frap (big blind) showed [Kd 2h 8d 6h] and lost with a full house, Eights full of Deuces
Seat 8: LaTouF folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Hand 3:

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Button ($26.30)
Hero ($23.55)
BB ($44.20)
UTG ($5)
MP1 ($4.55)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($16.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 (poster) raises to $1.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.8, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $3.45.

Flop: ($10.35) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9.85, MP2 calls $5.20 (All-In).

Turn: ($25.40) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($25.40) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $25.40

Results:


*** SHOW DOWN ***
jj_frap: shows [Ah Ac 6s 7h] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
zaq12wsx: shows [3c 5d Td Ts] (three of a kind, Fives)
zaq12wsx collected $19.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.75 | Rake $1
Board [Qd 8c 5h Kh 5c]
Seat 1: Cockle (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jj_frap (small blind) showed [Ah Ac 6s 7h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 4: bucks-1954 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: leebo_96 folded before Flop
Seat 6: Lucius folded before Flop
Seat 8: zaq12wsx showed [3c 5d Td Ts] and won ($19.75) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 9: skipper57 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Hand 4:

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Button ($39.45)
SB ($39)
BB ($23)
UTG ($45.80)
UTG+1 ($7.75)
MP1 ($23.50)
MP2 ($52.90)
Hero ($48.25)
CO ($24.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB completes, BB raises to $3.5, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $3, Hero calls $3, SB folds.

Flop: ($12) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $11.4, BB folds, MP2 calls $11.40.

Turn: ($34.80) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets $33.1, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $67.90

bholdr

11-26-2005, 12:40 AM

All of these look good. Hands 2,3 and 4 are pretty damn standard- any alternative lines on them would have only marginally different expectations, IMO, so there isn't really much to say about them. hand 1, however, intrests me a lot. here:

Hand 2:

What, exactly, is the question here? how the hell else does one play this? maybe try to C/R the flop... maybe.

Hand 3:

Again... *yawn*... you built a pot with aces, flop was good for you- aces might still be good, but you have an open ender too. he's not gonna fold his last $5 in a $15 pot ($20 when it gets to him if you bet).

Hand 4:

yes, good fold. the second six likely counterfeited your two pair, and his aces are good unless you hit a 4-6 outer, which you aren't getting the odds to draw at.

Hand 1: This one is intresting. i would like to hear other's thoughts on my assesment of the hand.

There are times to fold a flopped nut straight in PLO.

well... you got all your money in with the nut straight on a rainbow flop... which is generally a good thing... BUT, you have very weak redraws (the K protects you against a Q coming and blowin' yer straight, but not a J, 7 or 9, the backdoor flush draw isn't very valuable). Given the action, i think you can be pretty sure that someone else has the same straight made- but they likely have better redrwas... you are in a world of hurt against a hand like QJ97 or 789T... So, you may be (and probably are) up against a wrap that has you in big trouble- you may be lucky to get half the pot here.

but i don't think this is one of 'em

When the SB pots the flop, you've gotta re-pot, imo... and if it had folded back to him and he re-potted, i would've folded... but there's just too much dead money in there to give it up that easily.

i really like the big huge bet on the end... i read the CO as holding a set, and you have sucessfully protected your hand with the bet.

bottom line: i play it the same, though i'm not happy about it.