K8s, here we go again

i'm glad i didn't let myself get blinded out. isn't this good enough to push with? i mean i'm EP but it's a decent hand, right?

#Game No : 3092202972
***** Hand History for Game 3092202972 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17707312 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, November 25, 08:08:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 66925 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: rdg133 ( $975 )
Seat 4: dbg513al ( $2715 )
Seat 6: A_U_S_S_I_E ( $955 )
Seat 10: wmood ( $1230 )
Seat 8: heret1k ( $770 )
Seat 7: jwigginton ( $1355 )
Trny:17707312 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 8h Kh ]
jwigginton folds.
heret1k is all-In [770]
wmood folds.
rdg133 is all-In [975]
dbg513al calls [925].
A_U_S_S_I_E folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 6c, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
dbg513al shows [ As, Qs ] a pair of aces.
heret1k shows [ 8h, Kh ] high card ace.
rdg133 shows [ 3d, 3h ] a pair of threes.
dbg513al wins 410 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
dbg513al wins 2410 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
heret1k finished in sixth place.
rdg133 finished in fifth place.

[applejuicekid]

According to SNGPT this is close, but I would fold here. If you were on the button this would be a push. However, I don't like pushing into 4 people with this many chips and this weak of a hand.

[tigerite]

I don't like this push, it's very borderline and too many people to act after you, and also you still have almost 8xBB's. If you had ~150 less, or were on the button (or possibly, but rarely, the CO) I would push this, not here though.

I'd fold too.

ok.. i'm going to take a break from these for a while, read this forum more and try some other games, i clearly have some fundamental problems with tourney play and it'll bankrupt me if i don't stop right now. but thanks for all your help so far.

[mosdef]

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According to SNGPT this is close, but I would fold here.

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I find this difficult to believe unless you put the players behind you on a fairly tight calling range, i.e. tighter than the real players at the 10+1s. Can you confirm your calling range assumption please?

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According to SNGPT this is close, but I would fold here.

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I find this difficult to believe unless you put the players behind you on a fairly tight calling range, i.e. tighter than the real players at the 10+1s. Can you confirm your calling range assumption please?

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I'm assuming that we want an EV diff. of over 0.5%. That's the case if two players have a 'Tight' (TT+,AQs+,AKo) calling range, and two have an 'Average' calling range (66+,ATs+,AJo+). With better (much looser) calling ranges it will be easily -EV.

[tigerite]

$10+1'ers only calling with TT+, AQs+. Heh! You're having a larf there..

[mosdef]

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$10+1'ers only calling with TT+, AQs+. Heh! You're having a larf there..

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This is what I was getting at. I have a pet peeve with people who say "SNGPT says push", when it really doesn't say that. Garbage in -> garbage out.

[tigerite]

I wouldn't feel comfortable about putting $55'ers on that range, unless it was some extreme situation, let alone $11 donks..

[downtown]

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I wouldn't feel comfortable about putting $55'ers on that range, unless it was some extreme situation, let alone $11 donks..

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FWIW I've very rarely used that "tight" range (in $55s and below) except in a situation where it's on the bubble and something like 100/200 and I have t5500 and the other stacks are like t1500, t1500, and t1500.

This is very obviously not that situation.