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ClaytonN
11-24-2005, 05:35 PM
Second hand at the table. No reads.
I am relatively new to HUSH and am dipping in the 5/10 waters every once in awhile.

This hand is tough (for me anyways) and I was wondering who raises the flop here and who folds the river, or if anyone plays the hand differently in general.

*edit - plz disregard amt. of players in hand, it is wrong in converter

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. UTG posts a blind of $5.
MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG (poster) calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Spicymoose
11-24-2005, 05:49 PM
I like raising the flop. The rest looks fine to me.

Lmn55d
11-24-2005, 05:58 PM
I like the way you played it. I don't really like raising the flop because unknowns will 3bet flop with flush draws or straight draws so their actions are more honest on the turn. Also there are a lot of real [censored] cards that could come. When I see the turn and the action I then decide whether to fold, call, or raise. River call is very +EV.

Alex/Mugaaz
11-24-2005, 06:45 PM
I normally call the river, but I honestly feel like you're not good here even 5% of the time. Anyone else feel the same?

axioma
11-24-2005, 06:51 PM
nah, i think youre easilly good here &gt; 1/20.

Alex/Mugaaz
11-24-2005, 06:56 PM
Seriously, what can you possibly beat now?

jt1
11-24-2005, 06:59 PM
I couldn't ever fold that river. But I don't have a single memory of a hand where I won after someone donked on a board like that.

However, I think the main debate here is whether or not to raise the flop. I raise and then get donked on the turn. Doesn't usually work out well for me. But I'm not sure if I like just calling down.

jt1
11-24-2005, 07:01 PM
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Seriously, what can you possibly beat now?

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A pair of queens or a small pp like 77. Like I said before, I don't remember it ever happening like that, but I can see it happening.

Lmn55d
11-24-2005, 07:11 PM
that's weird, I remember it happening a ton at 5/10

ClaytonN
11-24-2005, 07:20 PM
Is there a discernable favorite between calling and raising this flop?

axioma
11-24-2005, 07:34 PM
if MP were to your left i think its an easy raise to knock off the various gutshots/overs. with him between you and the bettor with only 1 still to act on a very drawy board i think its less obvious.

zephed
11-25-2005, 06:31 AM
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Seriously, what can you possibly beat now?

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You've never had a donkey/lag bet the river on a scare card as a weak bluff(?) attempt?

Basically they know you can't raise the river without the goods so they go ahead and bet the river with their top pair/whatever.