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primetime32
11-24-2005, 03:48 AM
Aside from the players involved and the fact that is on live on thanksgiving day, does anyone have any information on the tournament structure?
Bluff Daddy
11-24-2005, 04:34 AM
I dont know but I just saw a commercial for it saying it was at 6pm but on my cable it shows it comes on from 11am-3??
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I dont know but I just saw a commercial for it saying it was at 6pm but on my cable it shows it comes on from 11am-3??
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It's 11pm-3am. You'll be getting the taped version. It airs live from 6pm-10pm. However, some FOX stations are showing basketball during that timeframe.
lonn19
11-24-2005, 11:58 AM
I think the Full Tilt poker thats on 11-3 might be the tourney in Vegas that was held during the world series. The live one is at 6 which is the Monte Carlo Millions.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 12:40 PM
Monte Carlo Millions will be airing on FSN next year. The show on tonight is LIVE from Monaco. Since it's a 4 hour show, expect the usual fast structure (30 min levels). Also, expect them to really hurry it up if there's no conclusion by 10pm, like what happened at the FTP tournament at the Wynn.
I read that the players will have heart monitors attached so we can check out their heart rate during the game.
cold_cash
11-24-2005, 03:55 PM
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Monte Carlo Millions will be airing on FSN next year. The show on tonight is LIVE from Monaco. Since it's a 4 hour show, expect the usual fast structure (30 min levels). Also, expect them to really hurry it up if there's no conclusion by 10pm, like what happened at the FTP tournament at the Wynn.
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What time does the live one from Monaco start? Is it on FSN? At 3:00 pacific time my guide says women's basketball.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 04:08 PM
It is on FSN at 6pm ET, however your local FSN may pre-empt it for other programming. Fortunately FSN NY doesn't much other progamming.
TheBob
11-24-2005, 04:51 PM
Does anyone know if this is on in Canada?
ConsciousOne
11-24-2005, 04:59 PM
My guide doesnt have it coming on till 10 either. Does anyone know if there is a website that will air it live or something?
Iconoclastic
11-24-2005, 05:34 PM
This was taped and already been broadcasted months ago. I don't know why they say this is live. I've seen this show already, meaning that this airing is a re-run. It was the same players, same results. They are airing every single hand without editing so I guess this is 'live' in a sense, but it was not taped today or a few days ago.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 05:41 PM
Go to http://msn.foxsports.com/tv/schedule and you should see something that mentions the FTP.net Invitational from Monaco like I did.
primetime32
11-24-2005, 06:12 PM
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This was taped and already been broadcasted months ago. I don't know why they say this is live. I've seen this show already, meaning that this airing is a re-run. It was the same players, same results. They are airing every single hand without editing so I guess this is 'live' in a sense, but it was not taped today or a few days ago.
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no, its live and there are offshore books taking action on the event. You want to tell me who wins so i can make 20,000 please let us know.
I guess it depends on your provider. Here (SoCal, Adelphia cable) they are airing it at 7:30pm Pacific and rerunning at midnight.
Kyo Souma II
11-24-2005, 06:48 PM
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This was taped and already been broadcasted months ago. I don't know why they say this is live. I've seen this show already, meaning that this airing is a re-run. It was the same players, same results. They are airing every single hand without editing so I guess this is 'live' in a sense, but it was not taped today or a few days ago.
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It's another event. You could have checked the FTP site to be sure. The players aren't the same, nor is the number of players.. Didn't clonie win the first one?
-kyo
ClaytonN
11-24-2005, 07:07 PM
In Atlanta they are running a women's basketball game (#10 team against Gonzaga) over this. Utterly ridiculous.
I hope they air it later at some point.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 07:16 PM
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In Atlanta they are running a women's basketball game (#10 team against Gonzaga) over this. Utterly ridiculous.
I hope they air it later at some point.
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11 pm tonight on FSN South, in the meantime enjoy your women's college basketball doubleheader. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
ClaytonN
11-24-2005, 07:18 PM
So it's going to be a live airing on delay at 11 pm?
Just clarifying
ty in advance btw Kev
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 07:20 PM
It should be the entire 4 hour program that's running live now (assuming they don't pre-empt if the other programming runs late). In NY, it airs again at 1am ET.
ClaytonN
11-24-2005, 07:23 PM
tyty /images/graemlins/wink.gif
SoftcoreRevolt
11-24-2005, 07:28 PM
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This was taped and already been broadcasted months ago. I don't know why they say this is live. I've seen this show already, meaning that this airing is a re-run. It was the same players, same results. They are airing every single hand without editing so I guess this is 'live' in a sense, but it was not taped today or a few days ago.
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It's another event. You could have checked the FTP site to be sure. The players aren't the same, nor is the number of players.. Didn't clonie win the first one?
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Kristy Gazes won the first one.
Iconoclastic
11-24-2005, 07:36 PM
whoops. wrong event. too much fulltilt
It'd be a lot cooler if they managed to squeeze more than two hands between commercials.
MeanGreenTT
11-24-2005, 08:00 PM
Taping it via DVR right now, it's being aired on FSN in Tampa /images/graemlins/grin.gif
The ONLY way to watch poker events is DVR, WAY too many commercials!
Vuron00
11-24-2005, 08:04 PM
I love how they can show the cards as soon as they're dealt. I wonder how they implanted the microchips in the cards.
It seems like a pretty good show so far. I'm not sure how the general viewing public would like it, but it seems pretty good for the hardcore crowd.
pokerbo
11-24-2005, 08:08 PM
Is there any sites that show live updates for this event, as I'm in europe I cannot see this live..
Does anyone know who has the chip lead and do you think Ivey can win two in a row?
byronkincaid
11-24-2005, 08:13 PM
if you're in england it's live on sky sports 1. Roy the Boy just said Juanda's AJ raise pre flop then check check fold against Hanson's KQ? was embarresing.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 08:14 PM
Ulliott's been in front from the start. I haven't been watching too closely but he's certainly been the aggressor so far.
Pedigree
11-24-2005, 08:14 PM
I'm so pissed off right now. If it was Maryland-Gonzaga men's basketball I'd understand. But this? *is disgusted*
pokerbo
11-24-2005, 08:17 PM
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if you're in england it's live on sky sports 1. Roy the Boy just said Juanda's AJ raise pre flop then check check fold against Hanson's KQ? was embarresing.
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I just put sky 1 on but nothing are you sure its not on another channel
pokerbo
11-24-2005, 08:20 PM
Please live update me here,
1) anyone knocked out yet
2) who's got the chip lead
3) is ivey gonna win
byronkincaid
11-24-2005, 08:20 PM
/images/graemlins/smile.gif i edited to say sky sports 1
Live on Sky Sports 1 in the UK.
What is it with Dave Ulliott the outsider?!?!
Lederer knows what he is talking about, get the other guy out of the booth lol.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 08:21 PM
Still 7 left, which could be a problem later on.
Ulliott's chip leader
Chances Ivey win, maybe not as good as earlier.
SoftcoreRevolt
11-24-2005, 08:38 PM
Lederer and Negreanu heads up should be interested, will they have time in the broadcast though?
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 08:43 PM
Are they showing that at the conclusion of this show? Because that was something that took place at the Wynn during that FTP.net event.
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 08:49 PM
Ulliott 292k
Ivey 180k
Matusow short stack at 57k
Edit: Matusow first out in 7th
Ulliot has been stealing the blinds and antes so far, not much action from any of the other guys. Matusow went all in with 6 7 low stacked, got called by Ferguson in the BB with A8, and Matusow was eliminated.
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 09:32 PM
Jesus knocks off Hellmuth!! Devilfish says "We'll never see that scarf again." A reference to a white silk scarf worn by Hellmuth -- all players in suits due to dress code.
SoftcoreRevolt
11-24-2005, 09:33 PM
Ferguson is such a donkey calling me with Ace Five!
I am further convinced Hellmuth is a huge gimmick account.
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 09:38 PM
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Ferguson is such a donkey calling me with Ace Five!
I am further convinced Hellmuth is a huge gimmick account.
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NH, sir.
But seriously does Hellmuth not understand? I don't play much no-limit, but even I could see that the math added up given the range of hands Hellmuth could have. And Lederer even said that Jesus was getting the right price to call. But Hellmuth insisted it was a terrible call. Again, does he not understand or is he just a whining little brat? I know he's a good player blah blah blah, but it's hard to take him seriously.
Sykes
11-24-2005, 09:41 PM
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Ferguson is such a donkey calling me with Ace Five!
I am further convinced Hellmuth is a huge gimmick account.
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Seriously? I would have said the same thing.
The A5s call was borderline at BEST. What are you actually beating? All the hands you are beating, you are a coinflip against.
VegasVixen
11-24-2005, 09:43 PM
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So it's going to be a live airing on delay at 11 pm?
Just clarifying
ty in advance btw Kev
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Here in Greenville, SC (not far from Atlanta) its the same story... B-Ball now, poker on at 11pm...
Why must they deal the flop 1 card at a time? Damn Europeans. C'mon, it's a FLOP!
Gus just hit runner runner club for a flush and doubled up through Ivey.
SoftcoreRevolt
11-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Looks like it is picking up naturally now.
Gus Hansen eliminated in 5th place.
Could someone post the next hand as quickly as it comes up please? I've been betting live on this event and just discovered that our coverage is 5 MINUTES behind.
Chance for a real coup here, although I think most people have already wised up.
Lori
All folded to Ulliott's A3o how long ago was that on your coverage?
Lori
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 10:01 PM
I think on-air coverage is 5 minutes behind for the protection of the game. Ivey just took down a hand with AQ. The next hand Juanda raises with J5o, Ferguson folds A6
Interesting, I think you might actually be behind us by a few seconds, thanks.
Market is moving before things happen by a big margin now. Previous events have been live and with much better information about stacks and stuff too, this is poor.
Thanks all
Lori
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 10:06 PM
Juanda went all in with KQo everyone folds. That was about a minute ago, I'm sure Europe may get it ahead of the US slightly because of the satellite transmission and things like that.
Yes, definitely not much in it.
Someone has me by around six minutes here, which clearly isn't even worth betting on between hands, let alone on the flop.
What a waste of a live event /images/graemlins/frown.gif These things are usually the nuts for betting on.
Lori
TomHimself
11-24-2005, 10:09 PM
kev, you think this will end on time?
i agree i think other fsn live events did a better job of doing blinds and stack sizes
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 10:11 PM
They must be at the venue to have a 6 minute head start (assuming they're getting live updates).
I'm sure they'll end it on time, only if they really speed up the game. An easy way to do that would be to eliminate commercials every 10 minutes to get more hands in, I think they were at 52 hands 3 hours into the show. Maybe being in Monte Carlo causes some sort of problems in not being able to provide information in a timely manner.
I have proof that the updates are live (I was told one flop 6 minutes ahead of time). I don't understand what the delay is for, this is the first time they have ever had more than a few second delay (in a live event on UK TV at least)
The person is not physically present in Monte Carlo, so I'm guessing radio.
Obviously if we can work out where ready for next time, there is rather a lot of money to be had /images/graemlins/blush.gif
Incredibly I may break even on this whole fiasco, which would amuse me greatly /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Lori
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 10:23 PM
There's usually a delay on live poker tournaments in the US to prevent the situation you're talking about.
hedgeyerbets
11-24-2005, 10:36 PM
This is like watching a mid-level party poker sit 'n go. And about as entertaining.
Chris Ferguson has just been eliminated in 4th place.
Kyo Souma II
11-24-2005, 10:46 PM
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I love how they can show the cards as soon as they're dealt. I wonder how they implanted the microchips in the cards.
It seems like a pretty good show so far. I'm not sure how the general viewing public would like it, but it seems pretty good for the hardcore crowd.
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rfid
What "inappropriate" language did Devilfish use? I missed it.
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 10:52 PM
The Devil is eliminated and some swear words go on the air!! Oh my!!
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 10:53 PM
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What "inappropriate" language did Devilfish use? I missed it.
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You could barely hear it, but I believe it was the F word! And perhaps sh*t as well...
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 10:54 PM
Headsup between Juanda and Ivey, and Ivey wins a big pot with KK, so it's almost over. More than 3-1 for Ivey.
1) he used F and BS several times
2) he wore a board that advertised his website strapped on his back
3) he pointed out the number of Brits killed by American troops in the gulf
4) he was generally insulting through the evening /images/graemlins/smile.gif
How the American TV station didn't turn his microphone off I'll never know, they've obviously never dealt with him before /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Lori
bolgenmod
11-24-2005, 10:56 PM
Ivey wins.
SoftcoreRevolt
11-24-2005, 10:56 PM
And it ends at 10 PM... LIVE POKER IS RIGGED
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 10:58 PM
The "dump" button had been hit on the Devilfish a few times earlier in the broadcast, that would've been noticed when there was silence in the broadcast as he was speaking.
Congrats to Phil Ivey, 2 days, 2 tournament wins, $1.6m.
That guy was a loser, good job by Phil Ivey with another win, not a bad week for him.
I think it was our guys that were slow then /images/graemlins/blush.gif
Lori
TomHimself
11-24-2005, 11:03 PM
did everyone really buyin for 120k?
and what currency did Ivey win the 1.6million?
TomHimself
11-24-2005, 11:06 PM
once again this couldve been a better broadcast IMO.
wouldve been a amazing heads up between ivey and JJ if it were somewhat deepstacked like the ivey and jdags one
Kevmath
11-24-2005, 11:06 PM
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did everyone really buyin for 120k?
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Maybe.
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and what currency did Ivey win the 1.6million?
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Good old American $
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3) he pointed out the number of Brits killed by American troops in the gulf
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That entire exchange with Hellmuth was the funniest thing I've seen in a poker tournament since Tuan Le accused Paul Maxfield of catching a lot of cards.
And yeah, Devilfish dropped at least one fbomb while still miked. He also called Ivey and Juanda luckboxes, I believe.
I <heart> Devilfish. I just wouldn't want him at my table.
Vincent Lepore
11-25-2005, 03:02 AM
Helmuth whined for 5 minutes about Ferguson's call with A5. Helmuth moved in 96k with KJs. I laughed when I heard him but for those of you who saw the hand what do you think was Ferguson correct or was whinny Phil right. Bad Call-good call?
Vince
I believe Phil was right in his whining because he had been playing tight the whole tournament so Chris should of put him on something better than what he had, imo.
I watched part of it and I it sounded like every time Devilfish started talking they would cut him off or something. I might have been getting it delayed and a guy really hitting the dump button.
jojobinks
11-25-2005, 09:58 AM
i tivoed the reruns from the summer /images/graemlins/frown.gif
anyone have information about when this is re-running?
Publos Nemesis
11-26-2005, 02:25 PM
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i tivoed the reruns from the summer /images/graemlins/frown.gif
anyone have information about when this is re-running?
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someone please just give me a torrent. that is all i ask....
gisb0rne
11-27-2005, 12:55 AM
I believe it is incorrect for Jesus to call with his Ax, especially since Phil has been playing quite tight.
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I believe it is incorrect for Jesus to call with his Ax, especially since Phil has been playing quite tight.
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People keep saying stuff like this. Did you actually run any numbers, or is this just your intuition? Because I guarantee you Chris Ferguson has examined these situations very carefully, and made his decision accordingly.
SoftcoreRevolt
11-27-2005, 05:27 AM
And was Phil really playing that tight? It seemed to me he was in the mid range of hands played.
w_alloy
11-27-2005, 08:51 AM
If KJs is the bottom of his range:
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)
Hand 1: 60.1140 % [ 00.57 00.03 ] { AA-22, AKs-A6s, KQs-KJs, AKo-A7o, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 39.8860 % [ 00.37 00.03 ] { A5s }
If Phill is playing closer to optimally:
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.8819 % [ 00.41 00.06 ] { A5s }
Hand 2: 53.1181 % [ 00.47 00.06 ] { AA-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K8s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J9s, AKo-A2o, KQo-K9o, QJo-QTo }
I watched this a while ago, and cant remember what the blinds/antes were. But lets say they were 12000/6000/1000 (i dont even remember what the ante structure was). This means ro call 96k, Chris needs 44% equity to make a call and break even. So, assuming the second range I gave for phill is significantly closer to optimal then the first (Im quite sure it is if I got the blinds right), its never a significant mistake for phill to call here because, even if Phill's range is closer to the 1st I gave, Chris will make up the equity he loses in this hand when Phill doesnt push when he should.
swiftrhett
11-27-2005, 04:08 PM
You aren't taking into account the stacks of the other players and the payout structure (which you need to do to figure out the $EV of the call). If anyone can get all of the numbers, I can run this in ICM. I bet the call was good.
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If KJs is the bottom of his range:
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)
Hand 1: 60.1140 % [ 00.57 00.03 ] { AA-22, AKs-A6s, KQs-KJs, AKo-A7o, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 39.8860 % [ 00.37 00.03 ] { A5s }
If Phill is playing closer to optimally:
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.8819 % [ 00.41 00.06 ] { A5s }
Hand 2: 53.1181 % [ 00.47 00.06 ] { AA-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K8s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J9s, AKo-A2o, KQo-K9o, QJo-QTo }
I watched this a while ago, and cant remember what the blinds/antes were. But lets say they were 12000/6000/1000 (i dont even remember what the ante structure was). This means ro call 96k, Chris needs 44% equity to make a call and break even. So, assuming the second range I gave for phill is significantly closer to optimal then the first (Im quite sure it is if I got the blinds right), its never a significant mistake for phill to call here because, even if Phill's range is closer to the 1st I gave, Chris will make up the equity he loses in this hand when Phill doesnt push when he should.
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