ViperBull
11-23-2005, 03:17 AM
Hello all,
I haven't posted much on the forums, so a little background on me...
I play PP $25 full and 6-max, and for a while I was loosing (slowly, but surely) but the occassional big hand and deposit bonuses kept me afloat. I finally took a significant break, read a bunch of books and lurked on this forum for several months. It's finally paid of and I'm now winning a decent amount - still at the same level.
However, I believe one of my big leaks is not extracting enough value from my opponents when I have a pretty strong hand w/ a scary (or not-so-scary) board. I guess I tend to see too many monsters under the bed (particularly with a possible flush out). I'm often unsure of when to slow down and when to keep value betting at my opponent. The hand below is indicative of my problems:
My PT stats:
NL $25 - VPIP 19.3 / PFR 5.8 / PFA 2.4
NL $25 (6-max) - VPIP 23.9 / PFR 9.0 / PFA 2.3
Keep in mind these numbers include my "earlier days" when I was a lot looser w/ troublesome hands from EP (KQ, KJ, etc. and my arch nemesis AJ...) and a tad too agressive w/ potentially dominated hands.
Reads at this point: BB was fairly loose and hand called several $1 PF raises both with and without position... hadn't yet noticed much beyond that.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)
Button ($23.50)
SB ($8.29)
BB ($36.30)
UTG ($8.80)
MP ($3.50)
Hero ($30.08)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($2.10) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB calls $5.
Turn: ($16.10) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.
River: ($24.10) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.
Final Pot: $34.10
I appreciate any input and I'm going to start posting more hands and actually responding to others now that I actually feel like I know a little bit more than nothing...
ViperBull
I haven't posted much on the forums, so a little background on me...
I play PP $25 full and 6-max, and for a while I was loosing (slowly, but surely) but the occassional big hand and deposit bonuses kept me afloat. I finally took a significant break, read a bunch of books and lurked on this forum for several months. It's finally paid of and I'm now winning a decent amount - still at the same level.
However, I believe one of my big leaks is not extracting enough value from my opponents when I have a pretty strong hand w/ a scary (or not-so-scary) board. I guess I tend to see too many monsters under the bed (particularly with a possible flush out). I'm often unsure of when to slow down and when to keep value betting at my opponent. The hand below is indicative of my problems:
My PT stats:
NL $25 - VPIP 19.3 / PFR 5.8 / PFA 2.4
NL $25 (6-max) - VPIP 23.9 / PFR 9.0 / PFA 2.3
Keep in mind these numbers include my "earlier days" when I was a lot looser w/ troublesome hands from EP (KQ, KJ, etc. and my arch nemesis AJ...) and a tad too agressive w/ potentially dominated hands.
Reads at this point: BB was fairly loose and hand called several $1 PF raises both with and without position... hadn't yet noticed much beyond that.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)
Button ($23.50)
SB ($8.29)
BB ($36.30)
UTG ($8.80)
MP ($3.50)
Hero ($30.08)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($2.10) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB calls $5.
Turn: ($16.10) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.
River: ($24.10) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.
Final Pot: $34.10
I appreciate any input and I'm going to start posting more hands and actually responding to others now that I actually feel like I know a little bit more than nothing...
ViperBull