"Official" Live at the Bike thread (11/22) (300/500 NL)

[Kevmath]

Tonight was scheduled to be a limit night, but they tried to get a 20/40, 8/16, and even a 6/12 limit game going, but it wasn't meant to happen. That means tonight's show will be a $300 min/$500 max NL game with 5/5 blinds. Last night was their first attempt at a NL heads-up tournament with 2 5-player teams. The first round of matches seemed to go a bit too fast with the rules forcing a max of 16 hands. The final match between Ed and Corp. Mike was an interesting battle between two loose-aggressive players. Unfortunately for Mike, Ed sucked out one time too many as he took down the 10k for his team. To watch some live cash NL, head to www.liveatthebike.com (http://www.liveatthebike.com) from 6-9pm PT to follow the action.

On another note, for those that have no plans Thanksgiving, L@TB will have 14 hours of "best of" starting at 12 noon PT featuring the best moments of the ~9 months of poker. Hopefully they'll have a full schedule available by tomorrow.

[Russ McGinley]

(hiss)

well, I didn't come down because of the limit game and now there is a NL that I would play. Figures.

"Think they're friends?"

"Let's not even go there ... let's not even go there."

LOL!

[BarronVangorToth]

It truly would've been ironic if they'd gotten the limit game going last Thursday when I was about 3,000 miles west of my present location.

Sigh...

For those of you who may have missed my post in the LATB 17th thread, my apologies for not bringing my comedic stylings to the table for, alas, my work had to take priority and the convention had a number of fires I had to put out personally.

All of this after I spent all of the day Wednesday at the Mirage getting in some NL action so that I wouldn't be all in limit-mode going into the Bike...

Thanks to Bart and Tuch for corresponding with me and trying to make it happen, likewise to Michael for offering to pick me up in Anaheim.

Next time I have to go out to CA, I'm going to make it a priority to get out there a day early so that I have nothing to do on that first day so I can finally make the trip to this fabled casino of lore.

Until then - NL ahoy, I reckon.

Barron Vangor Toth
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well, I didn't come down because of the limit game and now there is a NL that I would play. Figures.

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Sorry Kev, I would play the 200 or 300/500 format. I like these better than the limit formats you put up.

[deepdowntruth]

Hey Shirlz!

[Russ McGinley]

WTF is wrong with Alan? This is seriously ghey.

[cwsiggy]

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WTF is wrong with Alan? This is seriously ghey.


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[whalekock]

Damn Russ you beat me to that avatar. At least we don't have Real World vs. Road Rules poker tonight.

Alan is so tight, stick a lump of coal up his a$$ and you'd have a diamond in 20 minutes!

[Russ McGinley]

Last week, in a 1/2 limit game, I saw a guy check quad kings on the river with 3 other people in the hand and he was last to act. His excuse?

"I was hoping to check-raise."

[spsurfin_Michael]

Welcome back to the forum Barron. How was the trip home?

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Last week, in a 1/2 limit game, I saw a guy check quad kings on the river with 3 other people in the hand and he was last to act. His excuse?

"I was hoping to check-raise."

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too funny

[spsurfin_Michael]

LMAO. You gotta love those people because I'm sure their mom doesn't. /images/graemlins/wink.gif


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Last week, in a 1/2 limit game, I saw a guy check quad kings on the river with 3 other people in the hand and he was last to act. His excuse?

"I was hoping to check-raise."

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[Russ McGinley]

Yeah, reminds me of Alan and his constant check-calling with big hands. Maybe they're related.

Damn that dude in seat 3 was excited. Slight tell there as he can't wait to push his chips in.

[cwsiggy]

LATB friend and all around good guy Kenna James still in the Monte Carlo Millions. I believe they are in the money. Ivey with a massive chip lead. TOny G blew his whole lead and is now a short stack.

Phil Ivey: 1,890,000
Richard Herbert: 843,000
Paul Jackson: 734,000
Mark Goodwin: 714,000
Eric Sagstrom: 453,000
Kenna James: 405,000
Bengt Sonnert: 297,000
Tony G: 155,000
Jean-Jaques: 126,000

[BarronVangorToth]

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Welcome back to the forum Barron. How was the trip home?

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Good, considering there was precisely one (1) seat open on the flight and it was right next to me.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[spsurfin_Michael]

I have played many many hours of limit (8/16) with Sonny in seat two. He generally plays weekdays in the mid-morning to late afternoon. I have never seen him play NL so it will be interesting to see how he does.

[rlr]

That was awesome. He actually pushed his stack over his cards. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

If you are going to put a 4/8 limit game on why not a $100 NL game?

[deepdowntruth]

I saw DM in their Exciter tour (at Great Woods, now the Tweeter Center, in Marshfield, MA). If you haven't seen them before, wow. Fantastic. All the gothy chicks with their elaborate arhythmic dancing was fun too. And a little infectious, unfortunately. I bet I looked like an idiot.

[Kevmath]

The Raveonettes (whomever they are) are the opening act at Staples.

Tony G finished in 7th, here's the final 6, with #7 added later tomorrow:

Paul Jackson 640k.
Richard Herbert 926k.
Phil Ivey 2.3 million.
Bengt Sonnert 580k.
Marc Goodwin 690k.
Kenna James 312k.

All chip counts approximate.

The following is the final table of the Monte Carlo Gold (consolation) tournament, the winner makes the Millions final table:

1 John Juanda 338,000
2 Devilfish Ulliott 266,000
3 Antonio Esfandiari 331,000
4 Victor Ramdin 174,000
5 Jesse Jones 171,000
6 Johan Storakers 352,000
7 Ken Lennarrd 463,000

[cwsiggy]

I wouldn't mind a 4-8 game. Go for it.

[deepdowntruth]

oooo The Raveonettes are great. First album is brilliant. Wish I were going.

[cwsiggy]

In other news Joe Hachem came in 5th for $88k in the Paris/Bally's Circuit event. Kido Pham wins.

[BarronVangorToth]

Shirley, sorry I didn't get the chance to meet you, Bart, and Tuch.

Not to mention my main man Denny.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[BarronVangorToth]

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In other news Joe Hachem came in 5th for $88k in the Paris/Bally's Circuit event. Kido Pham wins.

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This will pay for his accountant who is busy trying to figure out how to dodge paying taxes on 7.5 million.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[BarronVangorToth]

JJ > AQ (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=plnlpoker&Number=3922622& page=2&fpart=all) for a variety of reasons.

Barron Vangor Toth

[cwsiggy]

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This will pay for his accountant who is busy trying to figure out how to dodge paying taxes on 7.5 million.

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Actually - I read somewhere that he may not need to pay taxes in Australia on that for some weird reason (can't remember)

[BarronVangorToth]

There is some strange loophole that he is investigating (or so I read somewhere) but, make no mistake, some accountants are being paid handsomely as we speak to get him out of paying said millions he may or may not owe.

Barron Vangor Toth

[whalekock]

Bart, you missed your window by a mile.

[BarronVangorToth]

Bart, I assure you, there is nothing manly about Thanksgiving - at least my Thanksgiving, as I'll be hiding out in my room waiting for my psychotic family to leave my home.

Shirley, read the final few pages - Mason changes his mind. And, no, it's not precisely the situation you guys were talking about, but there is some quality posts in there regarding why JJ is better on a variety of levels.

Barron Vangor Toth

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There is some strange loophole that he is investigating (or so I read somewhere) but, make no mistake, some accountants are being paid handsomely as we speak to get him out of paying said millions he may or may not owe.

Barron Vangor Toth

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Since he was not a professional gambler at the time, his winnings were not technically taxable. However, the Australian Taxation Office is currently looking into how much of a cut they are going to take. The US took 30%.

[cwsiggy]

All this slowplay is making the whale game and Friday guys look like genious poker players.

What is the deal with trips on a paired board that the hosts want a big bet? With the pocket pair and making trips, this is strong. With a paired board that matches one of my cards, how is that strong? I do agree to bet this to find out where I am. What is the NL play here?

Heads up maybe. Please explain.

[DWarrior]

I was looking at Poker Padz, and I can't get the custom made ones without having to buy 500 of them.

Is there any way you guys can hook me up with the L@TB poker pad?

[BarronVangorToth]

Bart,

Why do you prefer Absolute over Party?

Please don't say the ease of rakeback, as isn't the better action at the latter make the aforementioned at the former less preferable?

Barron Vangor Toth
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[Russ Fox]

Australia, in general, does not tax gambling income. However, Harrah's should have withheld 30% of his winnings (there is no tax treaty between the US & Australia; this withholding, to the IRS, is mandatory), or $2.25 million. Thus, his actual win is only $5.25 million.

-- Russ Fox

[cwsiggy]

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What is the deal with trips on a paired board that the hosts want a big bet? With the pocket pair and making trips, this is strong. With a paired board that matches one of my cards, how is that strong? I do agree to bet this to find out where I am. What is the NL play here?

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If you flop high trips but with a bad kicker - say A3 on a board of AA8 - you want ot find out quickly where you stand (though it will still be hard to get away from your hand) check raise if out of position and if reraised - you can be pretty sure you are beat.

[spsurfin_Michael]

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Please don't say the ease of rakeback, as isn't the better action at the latter make the aforementioned at the former less preferable?

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Pure poetry

[BarronVangorToth]

Bart, that's interesting that you find the rakeback + reload at Absolute to make it more profitable than Party.

I have found the opposite.

Even with the hundreds of "free" money I've gotten at Absolute in any given week, I've found that the time spent to get it makes it not worthwhile as it doesn't equal Party.

This is getting waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but have others (that meticulously track your results!) found the same?

Barron Vangor Toth
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[BarronVangorToth]

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Please don't say the ease of rakeback, as isn't the better action at the latter make the aforementioned at the former less preferable?

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Pure poetry

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Every once in a while I'll stumble upon an Aaron Sorkinesque sentence.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[spsurfin_Michael]

That is one of the reasons you do not play Ace Rag. Poor Sonny--time to go back to limit where he usually does very well.

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What is the deal with trips on a paired board that the hosts want a big bet? With the pocket pair and making trips, this is strong. With a paired board that matches one of my cards, how is that strong? I do agree to bet this to find out where I am. What is the NL play here?

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If you flop high trips but with a bad kicker - say A3 on a board of AA8 - you want ot find out quickly where you stand (though it will still be hard to get away from your hand) check raise if out of position and if reraised - you can be pretty sure you are beat.

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Thanks for the 411. I am mostly a tourny player and am learning this NL ring game. The smaller buy-ins play like weak tournys. That is why I am interested in the Mon/Tue games here.

[cwsiggy]

I believe Rick explained that he was extremely card dead last time and still managed to win a little overall.

[BarronVangorToth]

Shirley, The Game is one of the greatest films of all time.

It is, arguably, THE greatest film on first viewing.

And you thought Ice T was in it...

For shame.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[whalekock]

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Shirley, The Game is one of the greatest films of all time.

It is, arguably, THE greatest film on first viewing.

And you thought Ice T was in it...

For shame.

Barron Vangor Toth
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Ice T, Micheal Douglas, same thing.

[spsurfin_Michael]

The gaame is the movie with Michael Douglas right? Gets a birthday present from his brother which is the game?

[BarronVangorToth]

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The gaame is the movie with Michael Douglas right? Gets a birthday present from his brother which is the game?

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Yes. I've literally seen 1000's and 1000's of films and my friends and I go more afternoons than not to the local cineplex, and, of those I know savvy enough to realize it, all of us would choose The Game as the one movie we all would want to see again for the first time if we could go back.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[whalekock]

When the hell is the next Fincher movie coming out? I didn't dig panic room.

[cwsiggy]

I do remember it being good but I'll have to rerent it to see how "great" it is.

I'm psyched for Kong.

[Russ McGinley]

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The gaame is the movie with Michael Douglas right? Gets a birthday present from his brother which is the game?

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Yes. I've literally seen 1000's and 1000's of films and my friends and I go more afternoons than not to the local cineplex, and, of those I know savvy enough to realize it, all of us would choose The Game as the one movie we all would want to see again for the first time if we could go back.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

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I /images/graemlins/heart.gif The Game. Too bad Fincher has practically disappeared.

[whalekock]

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I do remember it being good but I'll have to rerent it to see how "great" it is.

I'm psyched for Kong.

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If David Fincher directed King Kong. The ending would be that Faye Ray is Kong.

[BarronVangorToth]

Soon, we can hope. The world needs more Se7en's, Game's, and Fight Club's. (And Panic Room wasn't up to his quality ... but it was interesting, compared to most of the crap out there.)

Barron Vangor Toth
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[Russ McGinley]

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When the hell is the next Fincher movie coming out? I didn't dig panic room.

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Zodiac (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/)

Try to forget about Panic Room. Focus on the "Fincher Trilogy" of Se7en, The Game, and Fight Club, three of my all-time favorites.

[BarronVangorToth]

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I do remember it being good but I'll have to rerent it to see how "great" it is.

I'm psyched for Kong.

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The Game should've changed your life.

I have to admit Kong doesn't sound intriguing.

Barron Vangor Toth
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[cwsiggy]

"We used to read pornography, now it's the Horchow collection"

Love Fight Club.

[whalekock]

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"We used to read pornography, now it's the Horchow collection"

Love Fight Club.

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Wouldn't it be great to go back in Time and replace Helena Bohnam Carter with Angelina Jolie in fight club.

[Russ McGinley]

For the sex/dream scene, yes. For the story, no.

[whalekock]

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But I could see her being a dirty vagrant, she would play one well.

[deepdowntruth]

Hmmm...who of the LATB power trio would I choose to take on Team Action headsup...?

I think I would choose in this order:

Bart
Shirley
Dave

[whalekock]

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Hmmm...who of the LATB power trio would I choose to take on Team Action headsup...?

I think I would choose in this order:

Bart
Shirley
Dave

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Denny (after a seven course meal)
Terry (if he can be located wandering the desert)
Jana (after a bottle of Midol)