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stupidsucker
11-22-2005, 12:50 PM
15/30
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10

Seat 1:(1000)
Seat 2:(985)
Seat 3: Hero(975)
Seat 4:(975)
Seat 5:(985)
Seat 6:(1050)
Seat 7:(1030)
Seat 8:(1000)
Seat 9:(1000)
Seat 10:(1000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac, Kc ]
4 fold, 1 limp, 1 raise to 60
Hero calls 60
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 4s, 7c ]
check.
check.
preflop raiser bets (150)

Hero???

bones
11-22-2005, 01:02 PM
http://www.c-n.com.au/cramer/images/Pushing_Codys_car.jpg

11-22-2005, 02:27 PM
haha it took a second for that image to load and it's perfect.

Definitely. I like the push. And the reason I like it is because even if he has QQ, you're actually slightly ahead. My instinct is that he'll fold though. Not bad either way.

pineapple888
11-22-2005, 02:30 PM
[ QUOTE ]
15/30
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10

Seat 1:(1000)
Seat 2:(985)
Seat 3: Hero(975)
Seat 4:(975)
Seat 5:(985)
Seat 6:(1050)
Seat 7:(1030)
Seat 8:(1000)
Seat 9:(1000)
Seat 10:(1000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac, Kc ]
4 fold, 1 limp, 1 raise to 60
Hero calls 60
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 4s, 7c ]
check.
check.
preflop raiser bets (150)

Hero???

[/ QUOTE ]

Nut flush draw and two overcards? Very easy push.

11-22-2005, 02:52 PM
Wait, the guy didn't have a set did he? I hope not. That would kinda change everything.

Irieguy
11-22-2005, 03:01 PM
If you are going to make your hand, you want as much money in the pot as possible.

If you are going to miss your hand, you want him to fold.

At this point, you don't yet know.

I think there is a better option than pushing. Remember that sometimes you can manufacture folding equity through bet size manipulation. In other words, when the stacks are short and you can't make an opponent's call too expensive relative to the size of the pot... you can sometimes use a betting sequence that convinces him it's not even worth calling a few extra chips.

This is a concept that I use a lot in SNGs. My hand is too strong to fold, but I'm not yet sure whether I would rather my opponent fold or call all-in. So, even though my stack is too short to theoretically do much about it... I will make a small raise or min-raise on the flop. If he pushes, fine. If he folds... whatever. But usually he will call because I am laying him such a great price. Maybe he can make trips or something, right? Then If I miss the turn, I can sometimes buy the pot with a peculiar non-all-in bet. If an opponent sees you min-raise him on the flop, and then bet 2/3 of your short stack on the turn... he will be convinced that you are trying to milk him. If, on the other hand, I make my hand on the turn, I can check behind and induce an all-in bluff on the river.

Irieguy

stupidsucker
11-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Thanks for all of the input.

I got the answers I wanted and expected. I did push, but I second guessed myself due to some bad results recently.

11-22-2005, 04:34 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for all of the input.

I got the answers I wanted and expected. I did push, but I second guessed myself due to some bad results recently.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's very easy to do that but keep pushing your edges and stay aggressive. I really like guy's response and think it's a wonderfully strategic play but often I run into situations where it's completely lost on the opponent because he's simply not sophisticated enough to understand what is happening.

He simply sees his cards and the board and believes what he wants to believe. But if it works, more power to you because that's creative, solid poker.

11-22-2005, 05:22 PM
I love this line.

Very nice post.

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