Eurobet's new bonus:

[EricW]

I'm totally clueless when it comes to bonuses and how they workout so can someone tell me if this bonus is worth it? As well, how does it work?

I'm primarily a sit n go player but if I play limit, it'd be multi-tabling at 1/2.

Also, how does this affect rakeback that I currently have?

Thanks

[Iq75]

edit:
posted this to a wrong thread. Sorry...

[fire_fly]

I'm wondering about current rakeback accounts too, anyone heard anything?

[stigmata]

Someone in this thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3999279&an=0&page=0#Post 3999279) seemed to think rb at euro would remain the same.

[dibbs]

It seems to be the feeling of a few reputable Affs that any RB deal had with the old Euro remains valid.

[dibbs]

For those adept in bonus math, how long will this take to clear at a level of 50$ PL/NL games and 1/2$ Limit?

its 100% up to 600$, 90 days to clear, requiring you to generate 10 points per dollar, so 6k for the whole thing. Points are awarded at a rate of 0.07 points for each $0.10 of rake in a ring game. For example a rake of $3 will award all players contributing to the pot 2.1 points.

I don't pay attention to rake all that much so cant even ballpark how long/ how many hands this would take at this level, but it seems lengthy, any thoughts?

I believe Pokerrom bonuses all return about half of the vig on SNGs.

No one really knows about Eurobet rakeback yet.
The few other Pokerroom rakeback deals aren't nearly as good as bouncing from skin to skin working off bonii.

The terms of the new Eurobet bonus say that players who contribute to the pot generate points, the same way rake for rakeback is generated. If true, it would take an awfully long time to generate 6,000 points

[Mroberts3]

I did a little quick math after seeing this. If I play 4 tables to the tune of 240 hands per hour. (these are all estimates BTW) and I only play 15% of my hands, that leaves me with 36 hands entered into the pot. Let's say 50 to include blinds. If the average pot is 1 dollar, we will earn 10*50*.07=35 pts per hour. 6000/35 = 171 hours. 171 hrs/90 days= 1.9

You will have to play 2 hours per day, every day for 3 months with 4 tables just to sqeak in. My guess is that they know this. Go for a $200 deposit, not the full 600 in order to have any hope of clearing it.

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The terms of the new Eurobet bonus say that players who contribute to the pot generate points, the same way rake for rakeback is generated. If true, it would take an awfully long time to generate 6,000 points

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They have always said this. It's not true, and Eurobet's bonus is the same as every pokerroom skin one. It's not going to take 3 months to clear.

[SoCalRugger]

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The terms of the new Eurobet bonus say that players who contribute to the pot generate points, the same way rake for rakeback is generated. If true, it would take an awfully long time to generate 6,000 points

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They have always said this. It's not true, and Eurobet's bonus is the same as every pokerroom skin one. It's not going to take 3 months to clear.

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Correct. It's not too difficult to put up 1,000 points a day if you multitable 3/6. I've put up 2,000 points a day sometimes. If you play 3/6+, this bonus will clear faster than a standard Party 10x bonus.

[BradleyT]

1200 SnG's if you play $10+1 and want the $600 bonus.

do they have turbo 10 player sngs on pokeroom (eurobet)?Maybe i'm used to parties structure but finding tournaments and multi tabling on this new interface sucks.

[MyTurn2Raise]

Observed the 2/4 full ring for a bit today
little difference with the addition of Eurobet
an extra table, but that could just be variance
Pot size seemed a bit smaller
It's like pokerroom before...find a fish and sit next to him/her

[dgoldsmith]

I just deposited for the bonus today and played a little 5-max $1/$2 limit holdem.

According to PokerTracker, the 80 games generated $41.45 in total rake. $41.45 / $0.10 = 414.5 * 0.07 pts = 29.015 pts. $20.50 of the rake was from pots I did not contribute to at all.

According to Eurobet's cashier, I was credited with 28.98 pts so it appears that the requirement is just to be dealt cards -- you don't need to contribute to the pot.

This was a little under 1 table hour which earned about 0.5% of the required points, so extrapolating this (very small) data set, you get about 200 tables hours at 5-max $1/$2 limit. Four tabling reduces this to 50 real hours so this should be very doable in 90 days.

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Looks like my estimate on the small data set may even be high for the time to clear. According the the BW bonus grid (http://www.bonuswhores.com/bonus-grid.php), the 10x bonus should clear about $4 per table hour short handed so 150 table hours total. 3-tabling would be 50 real hours, 4-tabling would drop it to under 40 hours.

Dave

[timprov]

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Correct. It's not too difficult to put up 1,000 points a day if you multitable 3/6.

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Or 2/4 either. 2/4's much more practical than 3/6 in my experience, at least at full, as there often aren't four 3/6 tables going.

[captain_swing]

Does the bonus release in one lump sum or in increments? Thank you.

[Granite]

If it is like Poekrroom, it will release in one lump sum

Granite

[kdog]

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Does the bonus release in one lump sum or in increments? Thank you

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Lump sum.

Now for my question...still 60 days to clear??? I'm a little backed up on clearing some others.

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For those adept in bonus math, how long will this take to clear at a level of 50$ PL/NL games and 1/2$ Limit?

its 100% up to 600$, 90 days to clear, requiring you to generate 10 points per dollar, so 6k for the whole thing. Points are awarded at a rate of 0.07 points for each $0.10 of rake in a ring game. For example a rake of $3 will award all players contributing to the pot 2.1 points.

I don't pay attention to rake all that much so cant even ballpark how long/ how many hands this would take at this level, but it seems lengthy, any thoughts?

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I've started my effort to clear the Eurobet bonus at $1/2 full ring limit. Here are the numbers I have so far:

789 hands, 333.83 player points = 2.36 hands/PP

So (2.36 hands/PP)*(6000 PP) = 14160 hands

If you four-table, you can play about 250 hands per hour. So four-tabling $1/2 full ring would take approximately (14160 hands)/(250 hands per hour)= 56 hours. Give or take a few hours, it looks like it would take anywhere from 55-60 hours four-tabling $1/2 full to clear the bonus.

[Macint0sh]

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Now for my question...still 60 days to clear??? I'm a little backed up on clearing some others.

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I think it's 90 days.

[silencio]

I play mostly 0.5/1 and 1/2 6max. According to the numbers mentioned here by some posters, it seems to me like this is equivalent to the average return from RB on eurobet. Supposing that the RB deals will continue on the new network, there is no point for anyone with RB to deposit for the bonus since it will be subtracted from future MGR.

[Joe Taylor]

A 10x PokerRoom bonus is equivilant to 70% rakeback. Since the point system is tied directly to the rake generated, it works out exactly.