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scotty34
11-22-2005, 06:06 AM
BB is a pretty LAG player, but not stupid. Stats are around 40/20

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (8 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">BB raises</font>

OK, first of all, given that this guy is a LAG, is there still value in the river bet? I would have expected him to raise me somewhere with any A, so I don't put him on that. I kind of sensed the C/R before it happened, yet bet anyways.

Second, do I pay this off?
aba20
11-22-2005, 06:14 AM
This is the type of river bet where I tell myself before I bet that I have to fold if check raised because I am always so tempted to call. I think that there is value in the river bet especially since it is HU, you may get called by very weak hands. You can safely fold this river to a check raise. At best you are chopping.
imported_leader
11-22-2005, 06:25 AM
How often does he bluff a busted flush draw? There's always QT too.
flawless_victory
11-22-2005, 07:35 AM
i dont see any value in that river bet.
kapw7
11-22-2005, 08:32 AM
I'm not that tough a player to fold against a LAG getting 11:1.
I can't answer if it's a value bet as I am influenced by the results. I think I would bet though.
imported_leader
11-22-2005, 11:01 PM
bump
einbert
11-22-2005, 11:03 PM
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i dont see any value in that river bet.

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11-23-2005, 04:31 AM
I'm wondering why there isnt value in the river bet?
imported_leader
11-23-2005, 04:36 AM
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I'm wondering why there isnt value in the river bet?

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What do you do with the raise?
aba20
11-23-2005, 04:38 AM
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What do you do with the raise?

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fold, you are getting bluffed here almost never.
ArturiusX
11-23-2005, 04:39 AM
Yeah, check it through. We're no longer beating worse aces, pocket pairs are about our only value, but he played this like a jack.
flawless_victory
11-23-2005, 05:25 AM
what are u supposed to beat?
11-23-2005, 05:21 PM
king high and pocket dueces /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Youre right though