B-Man
06-30-2003, 02:15 PM
The game is 7-stud. Player A and Player B are both regulars who know each other well and are friendly.
Player A has two-pairs showing and has been betting throughout the hand.
Player B has three hearts showing and has been calling.
As the river card is dealt, Player B says to Player A, "If you have a full house, you win, otherwise you lose."
Player A bets. Player B calls. Player A shows a full house.
Player B says, "That was an ungentlemanly thing to do," and genuinely seems offended that Player A bet his hand rather than check. Player A says, "Do you think I was going to bet my full-house if you didn't say anything? So why should I have to check just because you decided to reveal your hand?"
Personally, I think Player A is 100% correct here. If a player wants to accounce his hand prematurely, he is doing so at his own risk. Of course, many players misrepresent their hand, which is a completely different issue.
Other possibly relevant information:
1. Player B often talks during heads-up hands, and will say things like "tens are no good," or, "if you don't have two pairs, don't bet," or something like the example I mentioned above. I have never seen Player B lie about his hand. He views this as "giving other players breaks," even though the opponent will often do the exact opposite regardless (perhaps the opponents haven't played with him for as many hours as I have and haven't noticed that he never lies... or think he is acting strong because he is weak). Whether or not he is really giving the other player a break, in Player B's perception that is what he is doing.
2. Player B has been running over the game for many months. He's not just running good, he is running out-of-this-world.
3. This is a high-stakes game.
Player A has two-pairs showing and has been betting throughout the hand.
Player B has three hearts showing and has been calling.
As the river card is dealt, Player B says to Player A, "If you have a full house, you win, otherwise you lose."
Player A bets. Player B calls. Player A shows a full house.
Player B says, "That was an ungentlemanly thing to do," and genuinely seems offended that Player A bet his hand rather than check. Player A says, "Do you think I was going to bet my full-house if you didn't say anything? So why should I have to check just because you decided to reveal your hand?"
Personally, I think Player A is 100% correct here. If a player wants to accounce his hand prematurely, he is doing so at his own risk. Of course, many players misrepresent their hand, which is a completely different issue.
Other possibly relevant information:
1. Player B often talks during heads-up hands, and will say things like "tens are no good," or, "if you don't have two pairs, don't bet," or something like the example I mentioned above. I have never seen Player B lie about his hand. He views this as "giving other players breaks," even though the opponent will often do the exact opposite regardless (perhaps the opponents haven't played with him for as many hours as I have and haven't noticed that he never lies... or think he is acting strong because he is weak). Whether or not he is really giving the other player a break, in Player B's perception that is what he is doing.
2. Player B has been running over the game for many months. He's not just running good, he is running out-of-this-world.
3. This is a high-stakes game.