"Official" Live at the Bike thread (11/21) (1k Heads-Up) (LC)

[Kevmath]

Today's show (for those new to Live at the Bike) is a special $1k buyin 10 player, 2 team tournament. You can follow the action from 6-9pm PT at www.liveatthebike.com (http://www.liveatthebike.com) or by putting http://216.53.204.10/bike/bike_300.asx into your Windows Media Player or Real Player. Here's the explanation of what will be on tonight from Bart Hanson, one of the L@TB commentators:


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Ok I'll do my best---2 teams of five players--"Mo's Nutz vs Team Action".
5 individual matches.
Each person puts up $1000 for a $10,000 prize pool.

Each match consists of 16 hands and the blinds increase every 2 hands starting at 5-10. At the beginning of the show players will cut cards to determine who on the other team they will play headsup.

The winner of each match is determined by the person with the most money at the end of each match. It doesn't matter if someone wins by $5 at the end of 16 hands or breaks a person after hand 1 all of the $1000 goes towards their team. Say Mo's Team wins 4 matches--they will have $8000 and Team Action will have $2000 going into the FINAL match. If Mo's team wins 3 and Team Action wins two Mo's team will start with $6000 and Team Action will have $4000 going into the FINAL match.

The FINAL match determines which team wins the competition. The FINAL match is a family Feud style headsup event. The person from each team that won the most in his individual match will be the team Leader and play in the Final Match. If there is a tie (for example player 1 on Mo's team busts his guy $+2000, as does player 2 on Moe's team) the team leader will be determined by who won quickest (which hand #). The TEAM LEADER can receive advice from his team on how to play hands. During the FINAL MATCH all of his team members will sit behind him and see his cards. It is up to the TEAM LEADER to make final decisions on play in the FINAL MATCH. Final match will be 5-10 blinds until 8:30 and then escalate similar to the individual matches.

The payout schedule is as follows:

Team Leader from Winning Team $2400
Other members of winning team $1800

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[TomHimself]

sounds kinda whack, hopefully it works out

[Nathan_2]

My head hurts.

[surfinillini]

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Each match consists of 16 hands and the blinds increase every 2 hands starting at 5-10.

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I've seen this before, I think it was called Poker Superstars II.

How can one get a schedule of what will be webcast? Living close by The Bike I might want to get in on one of these games.

[surfinillini]

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How can one get a schedule of what will be webcast? Living close by The Bike I might want to get in on one of these games.

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It's been tried before and it's tough to stick with it due to different games running on different nights.

Just show up @ 5pm with your fingers crossed and your pockets full of 100s.

[Kevmath]

The usual schedule at L@TB:

Monday limit holdem (although probably will be tomorrow night)
Tuesday $300/500 NL (5/5 blinds)
Wednesday "Whale Game" 25/50 or 50/100 NL
Thursday $500 NL 5/10 blinds
Friday $1000 NL 10/20 blinds

That's what they strive for, but the real only solid themes are the Wednesday/Friday games.

[cwsiggy]

Seems like it will be an all in fest after say 12 hands. i could be wrong. eh - should be interesting anyway.

[surfinillini]

boo,

bring back the pink floyd avatar

-this structure sounds very odd

[spsurfin_Michael]

Good Evening.

I hope this format tonight makes for some interesting poker.

[cwsiggy]

yeah - Gilmour avatar coming back. Was going to make Shirley in the Porshe my avatar but.....

Thanks Kev,

Seeing the $200/NL restricted buy-in on several Monday nights I stopped by only to find an 8/16 that I didn't really want to play.

Maybe if you know earlier in the day the game could be posted or emailed to those interested.

Also, you have mentioned the email address as live@thebike.com but have l@tb in the post. What is the real email?

[Kevmath]

Nice to see L@TB broke out some money for t-shirts, flip cards, etc.

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Nice to see L@TB broke out some money for t-shirts, flip cards, etc.

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Where's Vanna White?

[Kevmath]

live@thebike.com is the real email address, I just like using L@TB as an abbreviation. They're trying to have a limit show Mondays by popular demand. Tuesdays and Thursdays might be better nights for a chance at 200 NL. I don't know what will be on that night's show until about 5:30pm PT.

[surfinillini]

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yeah - Gilmour avatar coming back. Was going to make Shirley in the Porshe my avatar but.....

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but that would be lame...

[cwsiggy]

I don't know - I don't like this already. Just a luckfest with only 16 hands total. meh

[surfinillini]

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I don't know - I don't like this already. Just a luckfest with only 16 hands total. meh

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yea, me as well, I don't know how much more I can take. Bring back the 8/16 donkfest /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kevmath]

They're going at breakneck speed, maybe if they doubled every 4 hands and make it a 32 hand max.

There's Ed with a suckout, and a Bartgasm ensues.

[cwsiggy]

Yep - all skill!! /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Ed is touched by angels

[Russ McGinley]

Haha, I just walked in to see Ed suck out again.

[spsurfin_Michael]

Classic ED

[Kevmath]

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Yep - all skill!! /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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In the immortal words of Mike Matusow - Poker, poker it's all skill. Start with the worst hand and go uphill.

[Nathan_2]

Mo's nutz is doomed, if Ed gets heads up for the money they lose.

[Russ McGinley]

"Team Action"? That's weak.

[surfinillini]

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"Team Action"? That's weak.

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Russ I checked out your archive show over the weekend.

tough break

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"Team Action"? That's weak.

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Russ I checked out your archive show over the weekend.

tough breaks

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FYP

[Russ McGinley]

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"Team Action"? That's weak.

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Russ I checked out your archive show over the weekend.

tough week

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FYFYP

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[surfinillini]

You played well but you doomed yourself playing in a 200NL game. I don't play less than 500NL, even though I prefer 5/10NL.

[cwsiggy]

Ali has no clue how to play heads up. Not that I do, but still.....

[Russ McGinley]

I didn't have the roll for 500NL, and back in those days the LATB 300/500 game was much tougher than it is now.

Man Ali just got smoked.

[surfinillini]

i hear ya

ok, why isnt the big stack going all in here

[cwsiggy]

Friend of the Bike Kenna james still in the Monte Carlo Millions 25k buy in tourney - some guy named Phil Ivey in 2nd. 12 left.

# Last First Chip Count Table Seat
1 Guoga Tony $1,066,000 1 4
2 Ivey Phil $1,062,000 1 6
3 Goodwin Marc $631,000 2 6
4 Ghebali Jean-Jacques $466,000 2 5
5 Herbert Richard $408,000 1 3
6 Sagstrom Erik $399,000 1 5
7 Sonnert Bengt $332,000 2 3
8 James Kenna $318,000 2 1
9 Ruhu Sargon $274,000 2 4
10 Jackson Paul $270,000 2 2
11 Voulgaris Haralabos $195,000 1 1
12 Ferguson Chris $186,000 1 2

[Russ McGinley]

Did Average get knocked out?

[TomHimself]

kev, whens this monte carlo millions gonna air in USA?

[cwsiggy]

Another weird thing they are doing at Monte Carlo - there is a consolation tourney for everyone who was knocked out - (maybe just the top 100 knocked out) - winner of that gets 100k and a seat at the final table but with a "10 BB short stack)

Should be good TV

[TomHimself]

erik123 is in too.

[censored] sweet
ivey, tony g and erik and jesus yea baby

I see Kenna got even with Jean-Robert Bellande knocking him.

Jean-Robert Bellande was short stacked and got all in with [6][6] versus Kenna James with [Q][J]. A [J] hit to send Bellande to the rail.

What is the toke to the dealers in this game?

[cwsiggy]

Avo with the slick Mahatma premium draw move.

[surfinillini]

If they have limit tomorrow night I think I might be driving down there since my house is tented and I'm staying @ a hotel.

But I do have a deposition with a claimant and an interpreter @ 3:30pm so it's doubtful to get from Ventura to Bell Gardens in 45 minutes.

Damn that sux, I just remembered I had to do actually work a full day tomorrow.

[Kevmath]

I think it'll air in March on FSN, the 2004 MCM is airing thru January 6.

[cwsiggy]

Another update from Paris hotel's circuit event. Nice to see Joe Hachem doing well - though only top 9 pay. this is who remains to the dinner break

Doug Lee $225,000
John Smith $179,300
Raed Abukartomy $167,700
Kido Pham $157,400
Ricky Zilem $143,700
Lee Watkinson $94,600
AVERAGE $78,823
Minh Ly $72,600
Hoyt Corkins $48,500
Max Pescatori $40,600
Joe Hachem $40,000
Scotty Nguyen $37,900
Matthew Davidson $36,500
Steven Hudak $28,000
J.C. Tran $21,100
Ricordo St. Pierre $20,300
Jennifer Harman $19,200
Stan Jablonski $8,900

[Kevmath]

Ed v Corp Mike, over/under is 15 hands?

Bart, any idea on what exactly will be on the "best of" show, like a breakdown each hour? And will the 14 hours be streaming continuously thru the weekend?

[cwsiggy]

This is going to be crazy. I still think it will last more than 15 hands only because the team can give advice.

[surfinillini]

alright, enough with the high 5s, this isn't a Miller light commercial

[mothman]

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alright, enough with the high 5s, this isn't a Miller light commercial

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hahaha /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mottom]

How do you e-mail the show? They always say to send to "liveatthebike.com", but doesn't there have to be a name in front of that to be a valid address?

[surfinillini]

live@thebike.com

These guys must really hate their wives. What a travesty of mid-life boredom.

I asked earlier, live@thebike.com

[spsurfin_Michael]

I can not beleive Ed called with A4

[ghostface]

So which is Zweig and which is I_Knockout_U?

[Russ McGinley]

Can I pay money to never see Ed do that again?

[whalekock]

The only reason they are doing this is to stroke Ed's Ego so they can take his money on Whale Night. This looks like some corporate retreat excercise.

[Kevmath]

I don't think they need Whale Night to take Ed's money, Ed's going to lose money just about every day that ends in Y.

[cwsiggy]

Cmon Ed call!!!! End this.

[surfinillini]

Fast action,

commentating has been done well...no talk of stop bets or rev implied odds @ this point.

BTW - Is that Cliff Howard on corp mike's team???

[spsurfin_Michael]

good action in this HU match

[spsurfin_Michael]

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good action in this HU match

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And then Ed blows off most of his chips with J high

[cwsiggy]

He called him with jack high! jack high!

[spsurfin_Michael]

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He called him with jack high! jack high!

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LMAO

[macmacer]

A9 52.8
10-J hearts 47.2

This would be more interesting as a $10K per person buy in

[spsurfin_Michael]

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He called him with six high! six high!

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FYP

[mothman]

Ed has horse shoes up his butt!!


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[Russ McGinley]

Ed is King Suckout

[cwsiggy]

hahahaha - I knew that river was coming! nh Ed

[Kevmath]

It also could be interesting as a "Whale Night" show, with a 5k buyin

[mothman]

Mike deserves to win this game.. Ed is too lucky.
But deserves has nothing to do with it.

hahaha /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

These are all the 'whales' so the the $1k is nothing to them. Would like to have a 'see it hurt' type of buy in.

[Kevmath]

It'd be interesting to see the "Whale Game" pros like Nakano, Habib, Le, Phan, etc. play each other. This may be a pretty interesting thing to do during Legends.

[macmacer]

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These are all the 'whales' so the the $1k is nothing to them. Would like to have a 'see it hurt' type of buy in.

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They are not ALL the 'whales' that play in the Whale Game. They are all very good poker players, and $1,000 does not mean that much since they win and lose that in a day, or in Jesus's case, a hour.

[spsurfin_Michael]

Ed wins........ /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Russ McGinley]

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Ed wins........ /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Naturally, who could beat those endless amounts of suckouts?

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These are all the 'whales' so the the $1k is nothing to them. Would like to have a 'see it hurt' type of buy in.

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They are not ALL the 'whales' that play in the Whale Game. They are all very good poker players, and $1,000 does not mean that much since they win and lose that in a day, or in Jesus's case, a hour.

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I see most of these guys in the bigger games. What is the smallest and largest 'whale' iyo? I think the NL games are all whales if they rebuy on the heavy.

[whalekock]

I love Dave's rants. Andy Rooney watch out.

[cwsiggy]

Not bad overall. The begining was silly with 16 hands, but hey, they had to choose a team leader.

[surfinillini]

archives are pretty solid.

I've watched about 5 shows since last week when I got them.

[Kevmath]

I'm curious about the archives, what's the earliest show they have? When I get the archives, I'd love to listen to some of the really early shows (with no Bart, Tuch, Shirley) commentating for the cringe factor.

Wow what a hand that was, all in pre-flop 77 v 55, 5 on the flop, 7 on the river.

[whalekock]

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I'm curious about the archives, what's the earliest show they have? When I get the archives, I'd love to listen to some of the really early shows (with no Bart, Tuch, Shirley) commentating for the cringe factor.

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Remember the early shows where Jennifer never talked.

[surfinillini]

man, some of them are OLD, back to May and June.


Back to when Bart wore a shirt and tie for each broadcast.

This heads up cash game is more interesting than the tourney.

couldnt it be argued that stu ugnar was the best heads up cash game player of all time and might of won 1 or more mainevents at the wsop than he did if alive today. I stil think the poker boom may never of happened cause players like moneymaker and fossilman couldn't beat ugnar at his prime.

[Kevmath]

Those were sorta early, I'm talking about those days in early February. Lots of Denny Williams on those shows, fortunately they wised up and got a group of people who could make the shows watchable.

[whalekock]

Denny is awesome. They should drag him out of the Ball Room every once in a while to do an hour or so. He's the John Goodman of live.

[Kevmath]

I grew to like Denny, but only in small doses. He hasn't been on the show in ages, he needs to stop by the booth to at least let us know he's alive.

[surfinillini]

Kevmath,

I might be playing tomorrow night as I alluded to earlier, if not see ya'll next week.

-surf

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I'm curious about the archives, what's the earliest show they have? When I get the archives, I'd love to listen to some of the really early shows (with no Bart, Tuch, Shirley) commentating for the cringe factor.

Wow what a hand that was, all in pre-flop 77 v 55, 5 on the flop, 7 on the river.

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2-16-05

Hey guys...interesting night huh? I must say I really enjoyed it. Not too many players have that much experience playing heads up and to be able to watch it really helps. I hope you've enjoyed it and who knows, maybe even learned a thing or two. (I know, I have)
Let us know if you'd like to see more of that. Maybe a heads up championship or more of what we had tonight.

Feel free to send me a private message with any questions/comments or concerns.

Thanks for your support...

[TomHimself]

i would like to see a heads up championship with maybe a deeper slower structure and maybe some of the big game players /images/graemlins/wink.gif. i enjoyed the show and learned some things. keep up the great wrok!