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11-21-2005, 04:44 PM
Should I have seen this one coming?

#Game No : 3072133953
***** Hand History for Game 3072133953 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17605492 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, November 21, 15:26:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 66888 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: AKassassin5 ( $755 )
Seat 5: TwoOnTop ( $440 )
Seat 6: snatchmagnet ( $775 )
Seat 7: Bech30 ( $805 )
Seat 10: SirThomasF ( $800 )
Seat 3: peter111 ( $905 )
Seat 9: Dejahvu ( $785 )
Seat 2: Professor_SG ( $785 )
Seat 8: SAKIC19 ( $1255 )
Seat 1: LBR_Hemi ( $695 )
Trny:17605492 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirThomasF [ Kh Kd ]
Dejahvu folds.
SirThomasF raises [90].
LBR_Hemi folds.
Professor_SG calls [90].
peter111 folds.
AKassassin5 folds.
TwoOnTop folds.
snatchmagnet folds.
Bech30 calls [80].
SAKIC19 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Jc, Ks ]
Bech30 checks.
SirThomasF bets [150].
Professor_SG folds.
Bech30 calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
Bech30 checks.
SirThomasF bets [240].
Bech30 is all-In [565]
SirThomasF is all-In [320]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
SirThomasF shows [ Kh, Kd ] three of a kind, kings.
Bech30 shows [ Qc, Tc ] a straight flush, queen high.
Bech30 wins 5 chips from side pot #1 with a straight flush, queen high.
Bech30 wins 1705 chips from the main pot with a straight flush, queen high.
SirThomasF finished in tenth place.
SirThomasF has left the table.
Game #3072137053 starts.

Ane comments on my play?

wiggs73
11-21-2005, 04:46 PM
Fold pre-flop.

Stop making bad beat posts.

11-21-2005, 04:56 PM
It is not a bad beat post
I just wanted to know if there was something you guys on 2+2 think I could have done to prevent this outdraw

11-21-2005, 05:12 PM
I would bet more on the flop, but it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Anyone who calls an 80 chip raise in round 1 with QTs isn't going to fold an open ended straight draw on the flop.

11-21-2005, 05:15 PM
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Fold pre-flop.

Stop making bad beat posts.

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Nh.

playtitleist
11-21-2005, 05:19 PM
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It is not a bad beat post
I just wanted to know if there was something you guys on 2+2 think I could have done to prevent this outdraw

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Okay, yeah, this is a bad beat post when one knows two things on this hand.

1) How to prevent the draw out.
2) That there was likely no preventing it.

1) You don't know how to prevent it, because that is your question. Answer: Raise more on the flop. Pot bet is good, or just push it.

2) Since your t150 bet didn't work, pot size probably wouldn't either and likely not even a push. This guy called the pre-flop raise with garbage, then called the flop bet with a draw. He wasn't going anywhere. So, not preventable.

So, had you known these two things, this would be a bad beat post.

pokerlaw
11-21-2005, 05:19 PM
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Anyone who calls an 80 chip raise in round 1 with QTs isn't going to fold an open ended straight draw on the flop.

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seems about right.

11-21-2005, 06:04 PM
Thanks for all your replies. I guess my problem in this hand was that I became too greedy. I wanted all of his money, and therefore I lost. I should have bet much more on the flop.
But thanks for all your answer (except Wiggs73)

Best regards
Thomas

11-21-2005, 06:08 PM
The worst thing about this hand is that I felt he had Q,10 on the turn, but I couldn't believe that he had called my pre-flop raise with that.
I think that is one of my problems, that I just can't fold a hand like that :O(

11-21-2005, 07:02 PM
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The worst thing about this hand is that I felt he had Q,10 on the turn, but I couldn't believe that he had called my pre-flop raise with that.
I think that is one of my problems, that I just can't fold a hand like that :O(

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Folding here is defiantely -EV. In a $20 SNG you will see AK, KJ, K3, J9 etc... MUCH more than QT. Just one of those hands you were destined to lose, if you don't go broke here THEN you've got some leaks.

11-21-2005, 07:55 PM
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It is not a bad beat post
I just wanted to know if there was something you guys on 2+2 think I could have done to prevent this outdraw

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No. You played fine. Next please.

11-22-2005, 09:33 AM
Thank you for your reply...
I will think about that..

best regards
Thomas

applejuicekid
11-22-2005, 09:37 AM
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I should have bet much more on the flop.

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No, you bet a good amount, and could probably have gone smaller or checked to get more action. Pushing and making larger bets is terrible play. Sometimes in poker you have a really good hand and lose anyway.

11-22-2005, 11:04 AM
There is no way to prevent this beat. Now way is he folding an OESFD on the flop. He's a favorite over most hands. Also, sets are great hands in SNGs. You have little time to accumulate chips. Go with your good hands and hope for the best.

11-22-2005, 11:07 AM
You played fine.