Zwieg vs. I_Knockout_U Round 2

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Currently Zweig $142,000 - I_K_U $70,000

Thanks for the heads up, been waiting for round 2...

I take it Zweig already got stacked a couple times?

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Thanks for the heads up, been waiting for round 2...

I take it Zweig already got stacked a couple times?

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Zwieg was around 150K, IKU around 75K then they got allin (with I_K_U calling an allin) on a flop...

Zwieg: Kx9x
IKU: T /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Flop: J /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Turn: 7x

River: Blank

Something like that...

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[ghostface]

is this on prima?

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is this on prima?

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Yeah.

yes its on prima. Zweig is now down to 20k after loosing a few big hands

Cold deck /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Who are they respectively in real life?

Zweig is Prahlad Friedman and IKU is this finnish pro / model of some sort.

Damn Zweig picks up 92K KK vs. QQ

> Game # 585,543,934 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
> Zweig raised for $1,000
> I_Knockout_U raised for $4,000
> Zweig raised for $11,000
> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U went all-in for $162,752.50
> Zweig went all-in for $33,696.50
> Extra chips returned to I_Knockout_U, $121,256
> Dealing the Flop(6h10h7h)
> Dealing the turn(4s)
> Dealing the river(7c)
> Zweig (KsKc) wins $91,792 with Two Pair, Kings over Sevens
> I_Knockout_U (QhQd) Two Pair, Queens over Sevens

almost 100K on just a draw.. jesus christ what is wrong with these people

> Zweig raised for $11,200
> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U, you have 5 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U raised for $42,000
> Zweig, you have 10 seconds to respond
> Zweig, you have 5 seconds to respond
> Zweig went all-in for $96,185
> I_Knockout_U went all-in for $58,051
> Extra chips returned to Zweig, $4,534
> Dealing the turn(6h)
> Dealing the river(2x)
> I_Knockout_U wins $208,501 with a Flush, Hearts

[fsuplayer]

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almost 100K on just a draw.. jesus christ what is wrong with these people

> Zweig raised for $11,200
> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U, you have 5 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U raised for $42,000
> Zweig, you have 10 seconds to respond
> Zweig, you have 5 seconds to respond
> Zweig went all-in for $96,185
> I_Knockout_U went all-in for $58,051
> Extra chips returned to Zweig, $4,534
> Dealing the turn(6h)
> Dealing the river(2x)
> I_Knockout_U wins $208,501 with a Flush, Hearts

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board was A /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

zweig has A /images/graemlins/spade.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif and IKU has 89 /images/graemlins/heart.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

or something very similar to that

[Sponger15SB]

The 200/400 game on Prima is one of the most confusing games to me. Why it doesn't run more often I don't know. It seems to me that randomly people will be sitting in it and they won't be sitting in 100/200, or two different people who I have seen sitting in it alone will be playing HU on 100/200 instead of 200/400.

Why doesn't Zweig sit in it more often, or HellRaiser, or 410, or... or...

Why would Zweig only choose to play I_Knockout_U instead of other people who would probably play him?

blehhhhh any ideas?

[Allinlife]

question, which prima software do i need to observe cuz gaming club and cook's dont have 200/400NL

[fsuplayer]

i just DL'd Royal vegas and it works

after the 200k pot, prahlad got down to 4k. now he's built it back up to 45k.

-grant

[edge]

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question, which prima software do i need to observe cuz gaming club and cook's dont have 200/400NL

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Prima is weird. Head-to-head is a separate section from all of the NL ring, and 200/400 is under that and not NL ring.

[billyjex]

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question, which prima software do i need to observe cuz gaming club and cook's dont have 200/400NL

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it's confusing but you need to go under "head-to-head" games tab to see 200/400.

[edge]

Do players see observer chat on Prima? I'm watching this game for the first time and the observer chat is both moronic and annoying.

[fsuplayer]

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question, which prima software do i need to observe cuz gaming club and cook's dont have 200/400NL

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Prima is weird. Head-to-head is a separate section from all of the NL ring, and 200/400 is under that and not NL ring.

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gaming club and some other skins dont show the real big games for whatever reason.

[fsuplayer]

zweig was replying to some things a bit earlier.

> Game # 585,561,887 starting.
PokerMGR110> yes ?
[Observer]deanled> POKER MANAGER
> I_Knockout_U wins $600
> Game # 585,561,928 starting.
[Observer]deanled> CAN YOU STOP TIEN?
[Observer]tien12345> THEY HAVE THE TURN CHAT OFF FEATURE.. DO IT
> Zweig wins $600
> Game # 585,561,967 starting.
[Observer]fhgfghtgy> its funnier this way
[Observer]kau> pokermanager
[Observer]geno26> BLOCK ALL CHAT
[Observer]deanled> why won't you do anything?
[Observer]tien12345> BECAUSE I LOVE THE MANAGER AND I LOVE PRIMA
> Zweig wins $2,799
[Observer]deanled> thought you were supposed to help?
> Game # 585,562,176 starting.
[Observer]tien12345> PRIMA IS THE BEST SITE THERE IS
[Observer]tien12345> IT IS THE *
> Zweig wins $600
> Game # 585,562,221 starting.
[Observer]mistermuni> WHO IS COOLER, POKER MANAGER OR LEE JONES
[Observer]rajmando1> GUYS call it a tie
[Observer]Scotty2000> Yeah we should ban the Prima loving beep
[Observer]rajmando1> stop for tonight
[Observer]Scotty2000> jk
[Observer]deanled> lee jones right now
[Observer]tien12345> EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY AT PRIMA MAN
[Observer]Scotty2000> jk
[Observer]MastaC> LEE JONES CAN LMB
[Observer]deanled> pkrmgr isn't doing anything
[Observer]MastaC> HE SCREWS ME OVER 5 TIMES A DAY
> Zweig, you have 10 seconds to respond
> Zweig wins $12,399
> Game # 585,562,547 starting.
[Observer]fhgfghtgy> wow thats a lotta ass raping mastaC
> Zweig wins $600
[Observer]mistermuni> if it were lee jones he would say CONGRATULATIONS, 172K ISN'T BAD FOR A NIGHT'S WORK
> Game # 585,562,581 starting.
[Observer]riverchance> depends if poker manager has hair , baldies lose every time
[Observer]MastaC> LOL TRUE TRUE
[Observer]rajmando1> 1 2k fixed makes me DIZZY
[Observer]tien12345> I JUST WANT U GUYS TO KNOW THAT PRIMA IS THE BEST SITE THE IS AND EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY HERE!!!
[Observer]tien12345> I JUST WANT U GUYS TO KNOW THAT PRIMA IS THE BEST SITE THE IS AND EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY HERE!!!

[mrwatson23]

Prahlad has just run a 4k stack up to 80k

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IKU takes him out finally, horrible call by prahlad.

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And just bluffed it all away. IK sitting with 212 now /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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Not really a bluff.

I_Knockout_U posted small blind ($200)
> Zweig posted big blind ($400)
> Game # 585,592,455 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
[> I_Knockout_U raised for $900]
> Zweig raised for $4,200

> I_Knockout_U called for $3,500
> Dealing the Flop(Kc4cQd)
> Zweig bet for $6,800

> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U called for $6,800
> Dealing the turn(6c)
> Zweig checked
> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U bet for $14,400
[> Zweig, you have 10 seconds to respond
[
> Zweig went all-in for $49,461
> I_Knockout_U, you have 10 seconds to respond
> I_Knockout_U called for $35,061
> Dealing the river(8d)
> I_Knockout_U wins $121,721 with Three of a Kind, Fours
[> Zweig cannot enter this game because he/she is out of money

Zweig : Kx2c
IKU : 44

A non-pairing club would give him the pot. Too bad for him it didn't. Game. Set. Match.

I think Zweig was only in for 1 or 2 buy-ins. He had it at 100k a piece at one point, then some big hands developed. Ran 4k up to 60-70k then lost this pot.

Crazy.

Also, Ivey vs fabsoul 1000/2000 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo has been going on FTP for a while now.

50k a piece.

[KaneKungFu123]

That seems to be his standard line with top pair, can't say i like it.

[AllIn3High]

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That seems to be his standard line with top pair, can't say i like it.

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Why not? Isn't that what's paying your bills? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Are you guys sure that I_knockout_U is Patrick Antonious? I'm only asking because he is at the Monte Carlo Millions right now...

[chekthastak]

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Also, Ivey vs fabsoul 1000/2000 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo has been going on FTP for a while now.

50k a piece.

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Who is Fabsoul? I see him on the 50/100 game, and he does pretty well.

Kane, are you not playing on UB anymore? I haven't seen you playing the last few days.

[KSakuraba]

You know they have internet in Monte Carlo also?

poor prahlad. He must be down 1million to IKU now.

[DalaiLama]

What do you estimate Zwieg's roll to be? As hard as he was trying to convince KKF that losing 200k to him was peanuts....seems kinda desperate to me. Now hes lost a half mill over the last week or so. Even with a 3 million dollar roll, 500 - 700k is a huge hit. Of course he could be tearing up others hu. I just don't have the time to track it. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[TheWorstPlayer]

Obviously I have absolutely zero idea. But since this is NVG - oh...wait...well, whatever - I'm gonna say it should be at least 30 million.

[KaneKungFu123]

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Kane, are you not playing on UB anymore? I haven't seen you playing the last few days.

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i changed my name, but dont plan to play much either way. going back to the multitabling grind so i can focus on my film making.

[scdavis0]

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What do you estimate Zwieg's roll to be? As hard as he was trying to convince KKF that losing 200k to him was peanuts....seems kinda desperate to me. Now hes lost a half mill over the last week or so. Even with a 3 million dollar roll, 500 - 700k is a huge hit. Of course he could be tearing up others hu. I just don't have the time to track it. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

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Keep in mind that Prahlad may be the single biggest cash game winner in the history of online poker. I'd guess his roll is 5-10x your $3 million figure.

[Dr. Strangelove]

he said he didn't have 8 million to play some guy 1k-2k heads up.

[scdavis0]

And on a $20 million roll that would be entirely accurate.

[DalaiLama]

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Keep in mind that Prahlad may be the single biggest cash game winner in the history of online poker. I'd guess his roll is 5-10x your $3 million figure.

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I have a hard time believing he has a 15-30 million dollar roll. Only a handfull of people have 20 m plus rolls.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Keep in mind that Prahlad may be the single biggest cash game winner in the history of online poker. I'd guess his roll is 5-10x your $3 million figure.

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I have a hard time believing he has a 15-30 million dollar roll. Only a handfull of people have 20 m plus rolls.

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Which handful?

[Dr. Strangelove]

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And on a $20 million roll that would be entirely accurate.

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It was him that threw out the $8 million dollar number, not me.

[capone0]

When the railtards were yelling at him he fired back like 2 days ago said he had a 5 million dollar roll. Don't know if he's full of crap or telling the truth.

[scdavis0]

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Keep in mind that Prahlad may be the single biggest cash game winner in the history of online poker. I'd guess his roll is 5-10x your $3 million figure.

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I have a hard time believing he has a 15-30 million dollar roll. Only a handfull of people have 20 m plus rolls.

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KKF's posted winrate implies an annualized winrate of $1-2 million if I recall correctly. This was at 10/20 with a ~2.5 PTBB/100 hand rate.

Prahlad has been playing in the biggest online NL games for as long as possible (and logging some serious hours) and I'd say his winrate (PTBB/100) is at least that 2.5 figure. It's not a stretch to me at all to think that Prahlad has been making $5-7 million a year for the past 3-4 years.

[capone0]

How is that possible considering most of the larger games went up 50/100 NL+ in the last year. I know a 25/50 NL game was going on when I was in college on UB (about 2 years ago) and that was barely full most of the time. I can't see him making that kind of money over that period.

Wouldnt surprise me if zweig had a 20 million roll. He doesnt act like a degenerate gambler who plays above his bankroll and he has destroyed 25/50+ since 3 years ago atleast.

[DalaiLama]

You guys are right...hes got a 30 m dollar roll.

4 years of play at the 50/100
30 hours a week @ 50 weeks a year = 6000 hours
say 200 per hour = 1,200,000
say 300 per hour = 1,800,000

3 tabling?
@ 400 per hour = 7.2 m

the handful would include the biggest cash game players in the world. Ivey, Reece, brunson etc...

30-100 m for the biggest players is a guess and I would suspect many including harman and chan are on the low side. Pure speculation.

[scdavis0]

Your high end estimate of $300/hr is way too low. You realize you can make $100+/hr multitabling 1/2 NL right?

[Jason Strasser]

Prahlad friedman does not have a 30M roll.


You don't understand how poker earn works. Prahlad is closer to being 5M in debt than he is to 30M.

[scdavis0]

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Prahlad friedman does not have a 30M roll.


You don't understand how poker earn works. Prahlad is closer to being 5M in debt than he is to 30M.

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Then I don't understand either. Care to elaborate?

[TheWorstPlayer]

Please explain how poker earn works. This sounds quite interesting.

[DalaiLama]

I just talked with Z and he said... I make more than general electric air...the lights are blinking and I'm thinking its all over when I go out drinking. Thats why he doesn't f with the big 40. hth

[capone0]

Since when have there been 3 50/100 tables on all of the sites combined? There has been at max 2 and it the one on Royal above that are full only when he is around usually. He made alot yesterday but he also blew a ton earlier in the week. I'm betting he's got a pretty large roll, 20 million seems kinda out there though.

[scdavis0]

The 25/50 game has been going on for a long long time.

[KaneKungFu123]

Diablo pmed me a few weeks ago:

"I realize that Mahatma is tilting, but you need to be super careful. The guy is insane. I'll say it again, insane. I know of atleast three people who he has hustled into playing for larger stakes, only to bankrupt them, taking everything they had including their houses and automobiles. I know for a fact that he has made atleast 40 million over the past 4 years playing on UB - dont forget that he was playing the big cash NL games in LA back when you were in 10th grade Algebra. Do you really want to mess around with a guy who drives a Caddilac Escalade with a License Plate "The White Freak"??"

I hope Diablo isnt pissed I posted this, but I just wanted to silence the people saying Prah only has made 5 million.

[DalaiLama]

Is diablo his accountant? /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[KaneKungFu123]

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Is diablo his accountant? /images/graemlins/spade.gif

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Let me tell you something kid. Everything you see and read is a lie. All of it. The evening news, morning paper, magazines, the government. Its all lies. But one thing is true, the word on the street. That you can count on.

[Jason Strasser]

There is absolutely no way he puts in anywhere close to that amount of hours. He'll have rediculously long stretches but he definitely isn't playing 6000 hours of poker a year, you can count on that.

If someone held a gun to my head I'd guess he has about a 6-8M roll. I bet in the last 3 years he's bringing home on average 1-1.5M/year playing online poker.

-Jason

[TheWorstPlayer]

So did your poker earn comment just mean that we over-estimated the amount of hours he put in? Or was there more to it?

[Yeti]

As usual, I'm pretty sure strassa is on the money here.

[Jason Strasser]

Prahlad's games are not running all the time, and the skill level of his opponents has tons of parity. His skill level also varies. The amounts he tilts probably depends on tons of factors. His standard deviation on his rate of return is probably astrinomical compared to any NL player that reads this forum.

He also probably plays tournaments and good luck estimating his ROI in one of those.

The bottom line is you can probably make very broad, conservative estimates about what type of dollar he is pulling in, but it's nothing you'll come up with on a spreadsheet.

-Jason

[DalaiLama]

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Let me tell you something kid. Everything you see and read is a lie. All of it. The evening news, morning paper, magazines, the government. Its all lies. But one thing is true, the word on the street. That you can count on.

Diablo has Ray Zee on his speed dial. End of Thread.

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lol

[scdavis0]

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Prahlad's games are not running all the time, and the skill level of his opponents has tons of parity. His skill level also varies. The amounts he tilts probably depends on tons of factors. His standard deviation on his rate of return is probably astrinomical compared to any NL player that reads this forum.

He also probably plays tournaments and good luck estimating his ROI in one of those.

The bottom line is you can probably make very broad, conservative estimates about what type of dollar he is pulling in, but it's nothing you'll come up with on a spreadsheet.

-Jason

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You lost me when you said that the skill level of his opponents has tons of parity. I will readily admit that I have played nowhere near this high and only railbird the games.

However, to suggest that Prahlad has had anything less than a very sizeable edge on his opponents in the 25/50 game for the past 3 years seems inaccurate.

[KaneKungFu123]

btw, dont they pay like 50% taxes in cali?

I would consider myself a very successful NL cash game player for the past 2 years and now I multitable the 10/20 NL on PP.

What Prahlad has done is truly astonishing and I certainly revere him. He is the only player I will say that about.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

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I would consider myself a very successful NL cash game player for the past 2 years and now I multitable the 10/20 NL on PP.

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Neat.

[yvesaint]

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I would consider myself a very successful NL cash game player for the past 2 years and now I multitable the 10/20 NL on PP.

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Neat.

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just in case you didnt catch it the first 20 times he said it

You guys are so cool. Can you teach me how to make great posts?

[captZEEbo1]

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There is absolutely no way he puts in anywhere close to that amount of hours. He'll have rediculously long stretches but he definitely isn't playing 6000 hours of poker a year, you can count on that.

If someone held a gun to my head I'd guess he has about a 6-8M roll. I bet in the last 3 years he's bringing home on average 1-1.5M/year playing online poker.

-Jason

[/ QUOTE ]I think you are GREATLY underestimating mr. prahlad. There used to be a site that tracked 98% of hands played at UB's high stakes tables. I remember looking up the hall of fame and seeing prahlad pulling $150k+/mo= $1.8M/yr, I can't remember if he was playing under two screennames at this time or not but that's still a lot. Furthermore, I'm sure he's been playing multiple sites too, he plays some at prima, pokerstars, full tilt, maybe elsewhere? I'd estimate it closer to $2.5M or $3M/yr. If you guys really think he's only pulling $1M per year then you guys suck. Earning $1M/yr at 10/20 NL doesn't even seem that hard if you put in enough hours, let alone 50/100, 100/200 and 200/400.

[dibbs]

Funny after all the posts I still sometimes have trouble deciphering when you and el d are dicking around or being dead serious..

[Wayfare]

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Diablo pmed me a few weeks ago:

"I realize that Mahatma is tilting, but you need to be super careful. The guy is insane. I'll say it again, insane. I know of atleast three people who he has hustled into playing for larger stakes, only to bankrupt them, taking everything they had including their houses and automobiles. I know for a fact that he has made atleast 40 million over the past 4 years playing on UB - dont forget that he was playing the big cash NL games in LA back when you were in 10th grade Algebra. Do you really want to mess around with a guy who drives a Caddilac Escalade with a License Plate "The White Freak"??"

I hope Diablo isnt pissed I posted this, but I just wanted to silence the people saying Prah only has made 5 million.

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I am cracking up in the middle of the law library as I read this. Thank you el diablo, and kkf for posting this

[Sponger15SB]

Well, he made $135,000 yesterday at 100/200, so thats like what, $49,275,000 a year?

[scdavis0]

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Well, he made $135,000 yesterday at 100/200, so thats like what, $49,275,000 a year?

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I'm struggling to find the purpose of this post. Was it meant to be funny? Sarcastic? Clever?

[Matt Flynn]

Horseshit. Interesting horsehit, but still horseshit.

Has anyone in the history of online poker really had Prahlad's number over the long run? There must be some player that he really doesn't like playing.

[capone0]

I wasn't lying when he said he had a 5M roll as of 3 days ago. I railbird the game, I don't have his exact quotes but the guy is a great player. He does have a high earning rate he also has a high as SD. Doesn't he have to pay taxes? Doesn't he have any other expenses? If he's quote on quote that good, does he kill live high limit games? Does he go broke there? I'm guessing no.

Does he drop money playing other games? I know for a while he dropped around 15-20 consecutive 5k HU matches on Stars. He dropped 350k last week to IKU. He's dropped a bunch to KKF. He's also made a ton from a ton of players. I also know he rebuys a ton until he starts raking it in.

Was the game this lucrative for him 3 years ago? I wasn't around rail-tarding back then. I know when i used to watch the 25/50 nl game back in the day he did rack it up. I also know there are a lot more players today willing to take a shot in that game then in the past.

[Nato76]

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Has anyone in the history of online poker really had Prahlad's number over the long run? There must be some player that he really doesn't like playing.

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I have seen a player named Green Plastic give him trouble on UB.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Has anyone in the history of online poker really had Prahlad's number over the long run? There must be some player that he really doesn't like playing.

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I have seen a player named Green Plastic give him trouble on UB.

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During the infamous uncapped low stakes game, Mahatma was going off on many players including GP. His opinion is apparently that GP has simply never run bad and has been quite lucky for a long time but is not a particularly tough opponent. Others who were there can correct me if I'm wrong in this.

[capone0]

on pocketfives, I know Green Plastic claimed to have lost 38k in 45 minutes. I'm pretty sure that's running bad once in a while, but obviously in the long run he's quite a "winnar."

[LetYouDown]

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During the infamous uncapped low stakes game, Mahatma was going off on many players including GP. His opinion is apparently that GP has simply never run bad and has been quite lucky for a long time but is not a particularly tough opponent. Others who were there can correct me if I'm wrong in this.

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Railbirding the $50/100 tables a couple of days ago, he was talking about how Green Plastic has "probably never had a run where he lost most than $100K" and saying that he was the luckiest player he'd ever seen. This wasn't after a bad beat or losing a big pot, and Green Plastic wasn't even at the table at the time.

I have seen Green Plastic a lot on UB. Who is this person?

[LetYouDown]

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I have seen Green Plastic a lot on UB. Who is this person?

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Taylor Caby

[Ulysses]

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There is absolutely no way he puts in anywhere close to that amount of hours. He'll have rediculously long stretches but he definitely isn't playing 6000 hours of poker a year, you can count on that.

If someone held a gun to my head I'd guess he has about a 6-8M roll. I bet in the last 3 years he's bringing home on average 1-1.5M/year playing online poker.

-Jason

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1: The poster estimated 1500 hrs/yr, not 6000. I would not be surprised at all if Prah played over 2000 hrs last year.

2: People are VASTLY overestimating the size of his roll when tossing around numbers like $15-20M. This is based on no personal knowledge, just common sense.

[lapoker17]

But wait, what about that PM you sent to KKF?

[Ulysses]

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But wait, what about that PM you sent to KKF?

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That was sent before the ill-fated 30M HU NL match he played at Bellagio a couple weeks ago.

[sillyarms]

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he was talking about how Green Plastic has "probably never had a run where he lost most than $100K" and saying that he was the luckiest player he'd ever seen. This wasn't after a bad beat or losing a big pot, and Green Plastic wasn't even at the table at the time.

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he talks this [censored] to everybody. I've seen him do it to kkf, bruiser and i'm sure gp isn't anything special.

[fnord_too]

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But wait, what about that PM you sent to KKF?

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That was sent before the ill-fated 30M HU NL match he played at Bellagio a couple weeks ago.

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What? Linkage? (I googled, figuring that there should have been something written somewhere (found nothing), and trying to use 2+2's search engine on something like this is damn near impossible.)

[scdavis0]

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But wait, what about that PM you sent to KKF?

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That was sent before the ill-fated 30M HU NL match he played at Bellagio a couple weeks ago.

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What? Linkage? (I googled, figuring that there should have been something written somewhere (found nothing), and trying to use 2+2's search engine on something like this is damn near impossible.)

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his post was merely oozing rather than dripping with sarcasm

[citanul]

i took him for 2m in the last 3 weeks. he must be in big trouble now.

[fnord_too]

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That was my first reaction, too, but I'm hoping for some good gauge ala the busto thread. Honestly, it would not surprise me to see something like that go down with all of the action monkies in poker, and there is a sick part of me that wants to know about it! (SR paying taxes and buying a house/investing/etc. is just boring, damnit.)

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That was my first reaction, too, but I'm hoping for some good gauge ala the busto thread. Honestly, it would not surprise me to see something like that go down with all of the action monkies in poker, and there is a sick part of me that wants to know about it! (SR paying taxes and buying a house/investing/etc. is just boring, damnit.)

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zweig has refused to play 200/400 HU sometimes and settled for 100/200. It was vs 410(JerleAA?).. So I doubt he would play someone for 30millions.

[Marlow]

From what I've heard other players say about Harman, she's on the high side, not the low side.

[LetYouDown]

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he talks this [censored] to everybody. I've seen him do it to kkf, bruiser and i'm sure gp isn't anything special.

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LOL, oddly enough KKF came up during the course of the conversation as well. He was heads up with "Svente..." something or other, a guy I see all the time.

[bogey]

you guys who honestly think he may have a 20-30M roll are all on crack. Who do you think he took this 30M off of? come on. If I had to guess I would say 3-4M, the 5M he supposedly said also seems believable, but I honestly wouldn't believe more than this unless I saw his bank account. Its easy to play 2k hours a year, but its not easy to play that much playing your A game and not tilting.

[mgsimpleton]

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i think oozing is more than dripping

[captZEEbo1]

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you guys who honestly think he may have a 20-30M roll are all on crack. Who do you think he took this 30M off of? come on. If I had to guess I would say 3-4M, the 5M he supposedly said also seems believable, but I honestly wouldn't believe more than this unless I saw his bank account. Its easy to play 2k hours a year, but its not easy to play that much playing your A game and not tilting.

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To you guys saying he probably played around 2000 hours a year. Put it this way:
hourly rate: 2000 hours * $1000/hr = 2M right there. I'd be shocked if he is making less than 1k/hr. (of course he easily has played less than 2000 hours/yr, but he makes more than 1k/hr I'm pretty sure.

[Sponger15SB]

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If anyone knows anything about all of this, please post them. I am interested.

[Ulysses]

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SR paying taxes and buying a house/investing/etc. is just boring, damnit

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If anyone knows anything about all of this, please post them. I am interested.

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Last rumor I heard was that SR read the Motley Fool analysis on theme parks and based on that bought a nice chunk of PKS six months ago and turned it around this week for a sweet 75% return.

[Marlow]

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SR paying taxes and buying a house/investing/etc. is just boring, damnit

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If anyone knows anything about all of this, please post them. I am interested.

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Last rumor I heard was that SR read the Motley Fool analysis on theme parks and based on that bought a nice chunk of PKS six months ago and turned it around this week for a sweet 75% return.

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Or maybe he got the hot tip from his boy, P. Diddy.

[Ulysses]

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SR paying taxes and buying a house/investing/etc. is just boring, damnit

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Last rumor I heard was that SR read the Motley Fool analysis on theme parks and based on that bought a nice chunk of PKS six months ago and turned it around this week for a sweet 75% return.

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Or maybe he got the hot tip from his boy, P. Diddy.

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Got some more hot news re: SR's investing. Apparently, based on observing the eating habits of his poker player friends, he invested in KKD about a year ago, but just dumped at a 50% loss. His comment: "Man, I am vegan and don't eat that crap, should have gone with my heart and not invested in that garbage food."

[hit_the_set]

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Got some more hot news re: SR's investing. Apparently, based on observing the eating habits of his poker player friends, he invested in KKD about a year ago, but just dumped at a 50% loss. His comment: "Man, I am vegan and don't eat that crap, should have gone with my heart and not invested in that garbage food."



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lol.nh

[Monty]

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i changed my name, but dont plan to play much either way. going back to the multitabling grind so i can focus on my film making.

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Does PF get Producer credits?

[yvesaint]

kkf is actually filming a new hit called "8 high" all about prahlads rise to fame as a rapper slash high stakes poker player who pushes 8-high as his signature move while rapping about his "tortoise named anus" (note that last quote is something he actually "freestyled" out on prima)

[KaneKungFu123]

There are some people talking that Praland might be indicted for playing some sort of financial role in the domestic terrorist group that bombed various SUV lots in the Southern California area. There is a rumor that a couple of his rips were found on an MP3 player accidently left at the scene of the crime.

i wish i had 10 billion dollars from cash games so i could bang hot sluts all day

[Publos Nemesis]

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god damn right. this is why you keep your poker money offshore.....

[Ulysses]

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There are some people talking that Praland might be indicted for playing some sort of financial role in the domestic terrorist group that bombed various SUV lots in the Southern California area. There is a rumor that a couple of his rips were found on an MP3 player accidently left at the scene of the crime.

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I have now heard that this rumor is incorrect and the rips were actually from a Captain Zeebo mixtape.

In other news, Prahlad has acquired a position in TiVo, but I have been unable to find out whether he is long or short. No news on his tax situation, though.

El Diablo.

A couple of questions:

1. Do you have a secret crush on Prahlad?

2. Do you have a shrine to Prahlad in your bedroom that you pray to each night?

3. If you listed your top 5 favorite CDs of all time would the Prahlad Friedman mixtape of underground freestyles be in the top 5?

LOL.

[Ulysses]

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1. Do you have a secret crush on Prahlad?

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No.

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2. Do you have a shrine to Prahlad in your bedroom

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Yes.

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that you pray to each night?

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No.

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Yes.

Haha, good answers.

I must say that mixtape is permanently in my 6 disc changer.

[citanul]

Q: What do you use your Capt Zeebo mix tape for?

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Q: What do you use your Capt Zeebo mix tape for?

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I do not have that mix. When I get it, I will probably use it mainly for dance music at house parties.

El Diablo is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.

[lapoker17]

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El Diablo is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.

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Hopefully you'll learn something.

[Isura]

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El Diablo is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.

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Welcome to 2+2!