View Full Version : My favorite game : Raise-A-Donk
Villan is pretty standard looser besides the fact that he often donks.
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.
Flop: (6.00 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.
Not a draw heavy board. Is this a fold?
Turn: (5.00 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.
River: (7.00 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.
Bet the river?
Final Pot: 7.00 BB.
silkyslim
11-20-2005, 10:41 PM
what are you thinking with this hand, opposite man?
BriPlay
11-20-2005, 11:09 PM
fold this PF.
Brian
BriPlay
11-20-2005, 11:10 PM
oops..sorry missed that you are BB.
fold the flop tho.
b
I think the 3 bet preflop is standard.
When he donks the flop, it puts me to a test. I think it is either raise or fold here. Is this a standard fold for you?
W. Deranged
11-20-2005, 11:20 PM
Realize that SB expects you to raise when he bets. Raising is often playing into his hands.
SNOWBALL138
11-21-2005, 01:00 AM
there aren't a lot of sevens that are calling you on the flop besides K7 and A7. I think villain flopped middle or bottom pair. If he has A pair in his hand lower than queens you are usually either looking at a set on the flop or a 4 bet preflop. The action indicates that your hand is good. I bet the river.
TheHammer24
11-21-2005, 01:10 AM
I think the flop is a pretty easy fold.
Nick C
11-21-2005, 03:51 AM
I don't think there's really a standard way to play this.
Preflop, I think calling and 3-betting are both fine. If your opponent respects 3-bets and will frequently give up postflop when he faces one, then that's probably the way to go. But apparently this opponent doesn't respect 3-bets (and he shouldn't so much, in this situation), so I'd consider just calling.
On the flop, I think routinely folding, if Villain routinely leads, would be bad. That doesn't mean you have to raise, though (but I think that is also an option).
Against a 3/6 unknown, I would probably peel on the flop. And then, on this turn, I might raise.
If I actually had AQ, there's a good chance I'd take the same line.
Anyway, those are just some thoughts. Blind-versus-blind battles are something I struggle with.
Edit: By the way, versus a predictable postflop opponent who isn't playing aggressively in blind-steal situations, then folding the flop would be the sensible play, I think.
Ed Miller
11-22-2005, 05:35 AM
Why didn't you bet the river?
PokerBob
11-22-2005, 05:36 AM
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Bjorn
11-22-2005, 09:14 AM
If he likes to donk you really can't fold a hand like this. Remember that if you fold a hand that has been 3bet like this preflop as little as 17% of time the donkbet is automatic for him. In practice the break point is going to be even lower since sometimes he'll actually have the goods.
So I say save the folds for when your hand is truely hopeless, here at least you have Ace high...
Given this i would usually raise but calling can sometimes be an option depending on how tricky he is.
/Bjorn
winky51
11-22-2005, 09:54 AM
My play would be call preflop, and raise the flop.
1 over card only and most likely it didnt him him. Id say 1 in 5.
If he has a 5 or 6 then you probably have 2 overs. 76, K7, A7 would suck
If he has a draw like 89 and he is weak he would call. Once again you are ahead.
If he has 76, he might reraise you here.
But overall I would bet the river. Only the Q you probably fear here and in most cases he doesnt have it.
Also try to notice how he reacts on the turn. I would place him on A6, K7, Ax (no pair), 98. Since he is a weak player if he made 2 pair or a straight he would raise the turn. If he was tricky then he would bet the river.
hobbsmann
11-22-2005, 10:18 AM
this hand sucks. you put in a large number of bets when you might or might not of had the best hand and then you get there on the river and forget to bet.
I kind of like the flop raise every once in a while when I have a read like that. I also spew chips, so take that for what it's worth.
How about taking the free card on the turn? Then bet the river when checked to or even raise a bet from villain when the 8 falls?
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