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theBruiser500
11-20-2005, 04:21 PM
6 handed or so, I raise in MP/LP to 40, person behind me calls, decent player, nothing special about him. SB calls, he is shorstacked at 600 on loose/bad side, BB calls at 900, nothing special about him either. I have QJo, flop is QT9o, checked to me, what is the play here?
captZEEbo1
11-20-2005, 04:23 PM
get it allin, hope you're not crushed
theBruiser500
11-20-2005, 04:25 PM
if i'm raised here 4 way pot, could be two pair (not that bad), set (bad), straight (very bad)
flawless_victory
11-20-2005, 04:26 PM
i usually check this unless these guys are badbadbad.
flawless_victory
11-20-2005, 04:26 PM
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get it allin, hope you're not crushed
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this is your advice in every thread.
captZEEbo1
11-20-2005, 04:28 PM
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get it allin, hope you're not crushed
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this is your advice in every thread.
[/ QUOTE ]true, seems to work for me.
fsuplayer
11-20-2005, 05:50 PM
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get it allin, hope you're not crushed
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this is your advice in every thread.
[/ QUOTE ]true, seems to work for me.
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good point. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=plnlpoker&Number=3960721& Searchpage=1&Main=3960721&Words=+chuddo&topic=&Sea rch=true#Post3960721)
captZEEbo1
11-20-2005, 06:37 PM
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get it allin, hope you're not crushed
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this is your advice in every thread.
[/ QUOTE ]true, seems to work for me.
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good point. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=plnlpoker&Number=3960721& Searchpage=1&Main=3960721&Words=+chuddo&topic=&Sea rch=true#Post3960721)
[/ QUOTE ]lol uhhh that's a little different =P calling allin while on tilt is different than pushing allin...even a player as bad as you should know that.
coltrane
11-20-2005, 11:03 PM
I'd underbet the pot and then start figuring out what everyone has and take it from there.....
Matt Flynn
11-20-2005, 11:46 PM
Are you asking permission to check?
FSU that is classic, nice work.
As far as the hand goes why not bet 2/3 pot? I see nothing wrong with that.
theBruiser500
11-21-2005, 01:27 AM
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Are you asking permission to check?
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actually more like permission to bet
flawless_victory
11-21-2005, 01:53 AM
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FSU that is classic, nice work.
As far as the hand goes why not bet 2/3 pot? I see nothing wrong with that.
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i predict zeebo see this, challenges u to play HU for high stakes, you run and hide like scared little girl.
Me playing zeebo HU has nothing to do with the quality of FSUs comment.
If I had a BR large enough to play the stakes that zeebo would want to play then I play him in a second. I can certainly bring the game, it is the BR that I cannot.
But if he really wants to play me then just show up at the NL2K on PP, you can find me everyday.
theBruiser500
11-21-2005, 02:21 AM
it looks like everything thinks i should bet. why? if i get raised i'm in a tricky spot, and it's a 4 way pot, they can't call with many worse hands here
i can't speak for zeebo, but I'm sure he would be happy to play you HU at 5/10 I've seen him play there before...this would be entertaining...
FatalError
11-21-2005, 04:06 AM
bet pot and don't put another $ into the pot unimproved
creedofhubris
11-21-2005, 05:22 AM
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6 handed or so, I raise in MP/LP to 40, person behind me calls, decent player, nothing special about him. SB calls, he is shorstacked at 600 on loose/bad side, BB calls at 900, nothing special about him either. I have QJo, flop is QT9o, checked to me, what is the play here?
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Bet it, hope the short stack pushes which makes everything simple, since you just call and go along for the ride.
Matt Flynn
11-21-2005, 01:43 PM
With a decent made hand and three opponents you want to narrow the action, so your default is to bet at least 2/3 the pot.
There are roughly 10 outs that worry you (discount the 9s and Ts a little b/c an opponent has to have one for you to be hurt by them, and add a little for the 7s in case someone has 86). Risky, but you can check, particularly if you are against maniacal flop raisers. You do minimize your earn when you are ahead, but you also save money when you're behind and may induce action from crap hands like 97.
That said, most players will call the flop with a jack, and as long as they don't have KJ or QJ you have them in a world of hurt. Also, a lot of internet players will call with a king, 87 or 86, in which case you really do want to bet the flop.
Matt
theBruiser500
11-21-2005, 05:50 PM
thanks, it doesn't seem like it matters that much but i agree with your analysis. in the hand i checked, hit a straight on the turn and made no money.
captZEEbo1
11-21-2005, 06:58 PM
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Me playing zeebo HU has nothing to do with the quality of FSUs comment.
If I had a BR large enough to play the stakes that zeebo would want to play then I play him in a second. I can certainly bring the game, it is the BR that I cannot.
But if he really wants to play me then just show up at the NL2K on PP, you can find me everyday.
[/ QUOTE ]HU DUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any stakes!!!!!!!!!
creedofhubris
11-21-2005, 07:57 PM
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it looks like everything thinks i should bet. why? if i get raised i'm in a tricky spot, and it's a 4 way pot, they can't call with many worse hands here
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You're neglecting your outs to improve. You figure to have either the best made hand, the best draw, or both, and so the solution is to get the money in on the flop and you don't need to play guessing games as to whether you're drawing or ahead.
Plus, if you get the short stack allin you've got a protected pot, so you can better judge the strength of your hand on turn and river against all but the trickiest opponents.
This flop is similar in texture to a three-diamond flop where you've got KK with a diamond. You might be slightly behind, you might be ahead, you're unlikely to be far enough behind that betting the flop is a bad idea.
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