15 BB challenge time again

[ClaytonN]

I'm bored, so I'm throwing down $7.50 at .25/.50 and the goal is to get to 10/20 by the morning.

Wish me luck or do your own little goal thingy.

also fwiw I'm retrocrazy on stars if ppl care to join in or sweat. i'm hopping around for shorthanded games.

[Benoit]

hmm I like that idea, never thought of doing that... I was going to play .25/.50 anyway on PS tonight.

[bottomset]

start higher

[Benoit]

sorry, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. Did I mess up the fish to 2+2er ratio? Well good luck anyways, I actually don't care much for short handed, I'm going to go play some full ring tables now.

Are these "challenges" worth doing? Looks like they are mostly for fun. I haven't done one before, but I just take shots at higher stakes occasionally.

[ClaytonN]

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start higher

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[Brain]

I made it from 0.50/1 to 5/10 (Party) before my good run turned bad.

+$88 though and a nice look at the 3/6 and 5/10 game

[POKhER]

Ok Ok... Like good old times clayton, i shall begin a 15BB challenge also.

Wish me luck, .25/.50 @ $7.50 (Stars).

I'm still stuck upstairs at the computer (downstairs ripped apart - don't ask) with a cold, with PP bonus to work off - what the hell...

[Redd]

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I'm still stuck upstairs at the computer (downstairs ripped apart - don't ask) with a cold, with PP bonus to work off - what the hell...

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Was that the PP bonus popup that some but not all people are getting?

[tonypaladino]

I guess it didn't go well, since you are at the 0.01/0.02???

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I'm still stuck upstairs at the computer (downstairs ripped apart - don't ask) with a cold, with PP bonus to work off - what the hell...

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Was that the PP bonus popup that some but not all people are getting?

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It's the PLISTINGS bonus. All I had to do is e-mail support, e-mail them again to tell them yes, they had to have sent the e-mail because it used my real name, and then e-mail them again to tell them an IGM-Pay bonus was not an acceptable substitute and I would be withdrawing all my money. Suddenly, I was eligible for the bonus after all.

Typical Party.

So, am I the only one who hasn't busted out of the Challenge yet?

Day 2 (is multiday play against the rules? ARE there any rules?) featured me suffering a severe cold-decking, getting my last $9 in at the 3/6 table, and tripling up to start a rush to...well, I'm slightly up at 5/10 now.

[POKhER]

I didn't bust, i got severly bored of playing .25/.50 for 2hours and only having $3 won. Lmfao!

i got to 14.25 but then a weak tight guy called down my second pair which dropped me to about 11 lol!

Ill try again later.

[68Mustang]

so how does it work? You start 15/bb @ .02/.04 and when you reach the next table stake .05/.10 15/bb you move? rinse repeat?

Pretty much, but you can start at whatever level you feel comfortable with. I usually start out at least .25/50 because like POKher described if you get into a rut at one level it can be a frustrating. As far as when to stop goes, always set a target limit and stop when you hit it or wimp out. I've have never made it past 5/10 while shooting for 10/2 (b/c I suck!). I've never seen guidlines on when to stop short of your target but I wimp out when I fall to less than 12BB of the level below me. (e.g. @ 5/10, I'll stop if I fall to $48 (12 BB of 4/8)). I'm sure there are purists who will insist on hitting their goal or bust out - I hope to be there one day.

[midwestkc]

OK, I'll bite...never did this before...starting at .25/.50 (I usually play .5/1, so I feel like this is a good place to start, and hopefully get to 5/10. Wish me luck!

[midwestkc]

Crap...very first hand King high flush loses to A high flush with only 3 of the suit on board, and I'm in the hole big...this isn't going so well....

[POKhER]

You got to 5/10!?!?!?

Gee i've never got past 1/2 in my 6-10 attempts.

However, tonight i'll play .50/1 and try get to wherever...

Id like to make $100 to make up for my 1/2 loss... So umm thats 3/6 eh ? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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You got to 5/10!?!?!?

Gee i've never got past 1/2 in my 6-10 attempts.

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This is my third time doing the Challenge and I finally made it past 1/2 (probably something to do with it being my first time doing it at Party, with the combination of fishier tables and having to start at .5/1).

Had to leave off at 5/10 up to $180 after being down to $80. I'll pick it up again tonight if I don't hit a B&M instead (yay, cold's gone!). The plan was to keep playing at a level until I advance or bust out, but if I make it to 10/20+ I might stop if I get down to $100, allowing for a nice profit on the $15 "entry fee."

[POKhER]

i usually start at .25/50 and then join .50/1 with $15, Everytime i exceed the BB ill "bank it" and sit down.

if you feel like wimping out move back down if you go under 7.5BB but i don't.

Ill try it in 2hrs or so, just at gfs.

Now I'm feeling the pain of not being able to run PAHUD...

...thanks to a couple of 5/10 calling stations who refused to set their bottom pair down no matter what, I'm at $316 and scouting tables for 10/20.

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That was quick - outcarded a couple of multitabling mofos at 10/20 (thought I was on a steal a couple of times - nope, just had AKs) and I'm now sitting at $610.

I've got enough to jump directly to 20/40, but I don't feel good about bypassing 15/30, so I think I'll skim off that extra $160.

This is getting mighty interesting...

[Vote4Pedro]

Nice work...

edit: have you been doing 6max or FT?

[Redd]

That's pretty amazing dude. You're going to have every new player on these boards trying an OIC now.

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Nice work...

edit: have you been doing 6max or FT?

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Thanks.

Full this time - decided to take the path of least variance, although a 6-max challenge is a good idea for next time.

Edit: my 6-max experience has sure come in handy as I go up the levels, though.

[trainslayer]

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That's pretty amazing dude. You're going to have every new player on these boards trying an OIC now.

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May get the noobs but he aint gonna git me. I absolutely suck at these challenge things. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Augster]

Wow. Well done.

I think I'd skim it also, and hit 15/30.

Getting good looks at the higher stakes that's for sure.

[MrWookie47]

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Nice work...

edit: have you been doing 6max or FT?

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Thanks.

Full this time - decided to take the path of least variance, although a 6-max challenge is a good idea for next time.

Edit: my 6-max experience has sure come in handy as I go up the levels, though.

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This is the sort of thing that makes a wookie smile.

[CourtJester]

yay, i actually have time for this thing for a while tonight. i started at .25/.50 at absolute (didnt get plistings at party) less than an hour ago, and im getting onto a 1/2 table as i type this, good luck to all

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This is the sort of thing that makes a wookie smile.

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I definitely owe one certain wookie a beverage if he ever makes it out to Seattle (or if there's ever a micro-gathering, hint, hint).

And the saga continues...

It took a while (being blinded off when the blinds alone would pay for a decent dinner is slightly weird), but a few blind steals and one pair of uncracked aces later I'm banking another $95 (total profit so far: $255) and stepping up to 20/40.

Maybe it was just my limited experience or good table selection, but surprisingly, play at 15/30 seemed much more straightforward than 2/4. I pretty much knew when to fold and when to raise by villain's actions - and a checkraise was like releasing poison gas at the table, it killed my opponents dead.

[MrWookie47]

I'll actually be in Seattle over Thanksgiving. I'd be in favor of a Seattle area micro gathering on Friday or Saturday. Anyone else in the area?

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I'll actually be in Seattle over Thanksgiving. I'd be in favor of a Seattle area micro gathering on Friday or Saturday. Anyone else in the area?

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I don't know anyone else who's from here, but I'd be up for getting together Saturday and even playing some poker.

Hmm...this might warrant a new thread...

[NateDog]

I did one last night. Only got to 5/10 (6M style) and got busted. Oh well. Short term variance is both a blessing and a byatch.

After getting my rockets cracked and $100 from being busted at 20/40, I battled my way back to almost exactly even before the table broke up (guess the new guy wasn't as fishy as they thought he was).

There I leave it for the night (can't decide whether there will be more casual 20/40 players earlier than there are heavy drinkers later).

Good luck to the others still challenging away.

[POKhER]

good job mate, Pretty good challenge eh?

Although can take hours if you're card cold(I.e. me 2hours at .25/.50 or whatever).


If i we're you, as im a bit of a woss /images/graemlins/wink.gif I'd be stopping now after banking $300 and trying my luck at 5/10 or 10/20 for a bit.

thinking of it as a lucky break. if you kill the table stay there for longer /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just starting a 15BB now before i train, got about an hour.

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You got to 5/10!?!?!?

Gee i've never got past 1/2 in my 6-10 attempts.

However, tonight i'll play .50/1 and try get to wherever...

Id like to make $100 to make up for my 1/2 loss... So umm thats 3/6 eh ? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yes, my first time. I started at .5/1 and had an amazing run (not through good play, just good cards - I hadn't even read GSIH or SSH yet). I was lucky enough to get decent cards within my first or second orbit at each level. (e.g. at 1/2, I had won my 2nd hand (can't remember it) and on my 3rd hand I had K/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Flop came A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, X/images/graemlins/heart.gif, X/images/graemlins/heart.gif giving me the nut flush. That alone was a monster pot so I skipped 2/4 (cheating?) and went right to 3/6 (had a K-high nut str8 on my first hand). Complete n00b luck. I got to 5/10 thinking: "Poker is easy, I pwn!" and got spanked when my luck ran out. Since then (3 more attempts), I haven't gotten past 1/2.

what are the "rules" exactly anyway?

move up every time you reach 15 bbs of the next highest limit?

[POKhER]

Join a limit with 15BB (.25/.50 With $7.50, .50/1 $15 Whichever).

Move up everytime you have 15BB for the next level, No moving down.

sounds righteous

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Join a limit with 15BB (.25/.50 With $7.50, .50/1 $15 Whichever).

Move up everytime you have 15BB for the next level, No moving down.

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Some move back down when they get below a certain level, some (like me, with my "all-in moment" at 3/6) don't. It's up to you, although having to go up and down can get tedious. Skipping levels optional as well if you're rolled for level above - I skipped 2/4 (partly because I was also two-tabling some 2/4 at the time and cleaning up, so there was nothing to prove) but didn't skip 15/30.

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If i we're you, as im a bit of a woss I'd be stopping now after banking $300 and trying my luck at 5/10 or 10/20 for a bit.

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I've been tempted to simply stop, throw my hands up in the air, declare "winnah!" and buy myself a video iPod as a trophy, but there's a bungee-jumping-type of freedom in just going for it. No matter what happens, I've made a $240 profit (over-roll I've banked) so I won't leave empty-handed at all.

Edit: And as I move up, it's becoming a great test of my poker skills (which no matter what, still need lots of improvement).

Update...Update...

30/60 was interesting - this is where everyone seems to be a multitabling "pro," and standard practice seems to be to sit out for a couple of orbits to get a read (most likely, PT stats). Tables quickly break up for no understandable reason. People test "the new guy" like this:

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB

Anyhoo, I'm now at exactly $900, which is not coincidentally the buy-in for 30-60. I'm frickin' stoked!

[Augster]

Awesome.

Thanks for keeping us updated. Living vicariously is nice as I don't get to 1/2 most the time. Of course, I start at .05/.1, so I only have $1.50 invested. I suppose I'll start higher. A $7.50 "loss" isn't really all that devastating.

At this rate you'll be at 200/400 by Friday. LOL!

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Awesome.

Thanks for keeping us updated. Living vicariously is nice as I don't get to 1/2 most the time. Of course, I start at .05/.1, so I only have $1.50 invested. I suppose I'll start higher. A $7.50 "loss" isn't really all that devastating.

At this rate you'll be at 200/400 by Friday. LOL!

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No problem - I'm kinda living vicariously through myself right now! To think it all started with $15...

The latest:

I've now got my 15 BB for 50/100!!! And I owe it all to the extreme donks I managed to find (and have buddy listed, in case I visit 30/60 again) after an up-and-down slog led to a table change.

SB has a VPIP of 85 (at 30-60 - can you imagine having that much money to throw away?). I suspect he and UTG+1 were both chasing with crappy aces for the wheel here, although I was sweating bullets at the river hoping UTG+1 wouldn't call me with a low PP...

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $30.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Yes, a $687 pot. I try not to stop and think about it while I'm playing, but afterwards my mind boggles...

(Edited to reflect proper level)

[Vote4Pedro]

what table are you on?

[bottomset]

FWIW I think you should stop now, you will be a big underdog in the 50/100 game .. 1500 is a good boost that can speed up your ability to move up in your main game ..

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what table are you on?

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I decided to stop for the night - two levels was plenty. In a minute I'll be slumming at Wookie's .5/1 table.

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FWIW I think you should stop now, you will be a big underdog in the 50/100 game .. 1500 is a good boost that can speed up your ability to move up in your main game ..

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Hell, I as far as I'm concerned I've been a big underdog since I hit 5/10. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

But true dat. $1500 (plus the other cash I already skimmed off) does make my bankroll pretty nice, and as I want to start playing B&amp;M I'm going to need the higher roll because they don't have too much 2/4 around here. Plus, getting from 50/100 to 100/200 would be the biggest step, BB-wise, since I went from 5/10 to 10/20.

On the other hand, the rush is amazing, and I'm learning a ton by playing at these higher levels.

I'll sleep on it for the next couple of days. If I stop I have to get myself something nice as a trophy, though.

[moose47]

**** Warning: Bad Beat Post

I started at .25/.5 and in a couple of hours was up to 1/2. I started with $30. About 40 minutes in I picked up JJ, flopped a set and won a huge pot to put me at $64.79. Time to move up to 2/4! But then, before I could close the window, I picked up AA. I lost to 43o and was knocked down to $57.79. Two hours later I busted.

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I started at .25/.5 and in a couple of hours was up to 1/2. I started with $30. About 40 minutes in I picked up JJ, flopped a set and won a huge pot to put me at $64.79. Time to move up to 2/4! But then, before I could close the window, I picked up AA. I lost to 43o and was knocked down to $57.79. Two hours later I busted.

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Ouch. Now that's poker for ya.

[ClaytonN]

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I guess it didn't go well, since you are at the 0.01/0.02???

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Yah, I was piddling around since the only money I had on stars was tourney dollars towards the sunday 500k. I had about 3 dollars left over.

So now I will try again with money on party, and this time I'll start at 2/4 /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[POKhER]

Starting at 2/4!!! /images/graemlins/blush.gif!!!

CHEAT BAN BAN!!!!

.25/.50 you woss(Oh wait?), or .10/.20 if you think you're awesome and can pwn all the nanos.

[ClaytonN]

I have zero patience for nanos, really.

fwiw I am now exactly at $150 and about to graduate to 5/10. My goal is 20/40.

[POKhER]

Get on aim, I wanna watch!

[ClaytonN]

$286 now. Holla?

I am beginning to wonder if I have the balls to play 10/20 yet.

[ClaytonN]

Idiots exist at 5/10 too.

BB had been identified as the live one in the game, completely FOS trying bluffs with 5 high and rather maniacal but stupid.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

Villain mucks T5o

It's 5/10, guys. Good game selection can make it seem like .5/1.

[POKhER]

play 5/10 for a bit then so you can bank some, this will make it less "risky".

Or now increase to a 25BB challenge... You wusss!

[mackthefork]

I just done it from 25/50 to 2/4, busted at 2/4, I had three guys on the table over 70 VPIP and two of them had ~20% PFR, I guess that's why they call it variance. This is the hand that should have taken me to my first attempts at 3/6, but it wasn't to be, oh I think I missed a bet on the turn too. Good stuff though. PS I'm classifying this as a none bad beat as I won the side pot. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I get 3 handed by time the flop action has finished against two of the crazy guys 80/20, and aggro.

I am in the CO with A /images/graemlins/spade.gif K /images/graemlins/club.gif 10 handed 2/4 Party

UTG raises, MP1 3 bets, MP3 Calls, I cap, BB Calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls. (20 SB)

Flop is 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif T /images/graemlins/spade.gif

BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, I raise, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 3 bets, I cap, MP1 calls, MP3 calls. (32 SB)

Turn comes A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

MP1 checks, MP3 bets all-in, I raise, MP1 check raises, I call (20 BB)

River comes K /images/graemlins/heart.gif

MP1 checks, I bet, MP1 calls (21.5 BB after rake)

<font color="white"> Results
MP1 held Ah Jd
MP2 held 9h 3h
Hero As Kc </font>

Regards Mack

[PokerSlut]

I had not seen this before so I'm giving it a shot, starting at .25/.50.

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Idiots exist at 5/10 too.

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I found them at 30/60, so I'm guessing they're everywhere. They're just richer idiots.

Good job, man, and thanks for inspiring my run.

[PokerSlut]

I have moved up from .25/.50 to .5/1 finishing the previous level with what can only be called a remarkable streak of cards that included quad 10's in the BB followed immediately by getting Q7s in the SB and flopping Q7Q.

[PokerSlut]

I've now finished up .5/1 thanks in part to an INCREDIBLE calling station at my table who played nearly every hand with the exception of a couple where it was 3 bets by the time the betting got to him pf. He paid me off handsomely on a couple of hands; the last one being where I held KQo and the flop came 89T and turn J making him a lower straight with his Q4o, which he capped all the way.

That was followed immediately by QQ in LP before I could get up from the table, which I also got paid off on leaving me up $9 over my 15BB buy-in for 1/2.

[Zoelef]

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Join a limit with 15BB (.25/.50 With $7.50, .50/1 $15 Whichever).

Move up everytime you have 15BB for the next level, No moving down.

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This looks like something I might do next time I go to a B&amp;M.

Edit: On the internet side of things, do BBJ tables count as steps up in the challenge? Just asking.

[PokerSlut]

What is a BBJ table?

Do you mean blackjack??? Or maybe something to do with a jackpot?

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What is a BBJ table?

Do you mean blackjack??? Or maybe something to do with a jackpot?

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Bad Beat Jackpot. When Party's gets really high, it's close to EV+.

Otherwise, it isn't worth the extra rake, but it certainly wouldn't disqualify you from the 15 BB Challenge - if anything, it would make it more difficult.

And in other news, after thinking on it a while, I'm declaring my Challenge at an end.

Together with the bonus I cleared, I made just over $2000 in less than a week, effectively doubling my bankroll, and that's a pretty good milestone for declaring victory, considering it's taken me 7 months to make the other ~$2000.

But I had to just sit in at a 50/100 table with the default buy-in that I couldn't have fronted pre-Challenge:

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1041/501005ev.png

And here are my stats for the wild ride (small sample size, yes, but that's still an awfully high WTS%, isn't it?):

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8872/stat8vd.gif

And finally, what I'm buying to commemorate my run:

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1029/coolpix0fj.jpg

Thanks for all your support, and good luck on your Challenges. No doubt I'll do the Challenge again, though, and take it to wherever it goes.

that is totally nuts, I gotta say.

be careful of trying to recreate that sort of rush!

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that is totally nuts, I gotta say.

be careful of trying to recreate that sort of rush!

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Are you saying that 15 BB/100 is not sustainable? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wonder if I can work up the courage to try it live sometime...

[PokerSlut]

My 15BB challenge ended in tragedy at the 1/2 level yesterday after only a few hands. It began with my flopping a boat vs. quads, resulting in a spectacular 10BB loss in a 3-way pot on my very first hand. The ordeal ended only a few hands later when my nut flush suddenly because less nutty when the river paired the board.

[ClaytonN]

Goddam, dude, well done.

This is why this challenge exists.

http://www.global-air.com/global/graphics/applause-clapping_sm.gif

[ClaytonN]

I had to drop down to 5/10, fwiw, after losing a pretty decent sized pot in 10/20 to a 2 outer on the river. Sadly my luck is not infallible.

I am getting a laptop soon though and will start another challenge again, but this next time it will be for fullhanded ring play. This last challenge I did was only shorthanded.

[Guruman]

i haven't done one of these before. I'm starting one now on Prima at .25/.50

wish me luck!

[POKhER]

Good job, Im shocking at 60%W$SD with 50%WTSD!!! Geeee, Runn HOOOOTTTTT.

Glad 15BB challenge worked for you.

On a side note, anyone have any calculations to show how likly it is that you go bust?

[Guruman]

well, I went to a crypto site instead.

77 hands treading water at .35/.70 (and fearing the embarassment of busting out at level 1)

finally I get up to fifteen bucks and move on to .50/1

FOUR hands in I limp after 5 limpers with T9o. we all call a raise from the BB and I flop the nut straight.

capped flop 5 ways
five calls on the turn
three calls on the river

I'm on to 1/2!!

I busted out at level 2 (.5/1) and found this to be like a fixed limit tourney. You can eat up your chipstack chasing a gutshot (even tho you have proper odds to chase).