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newhizzle
11-20-2005, 01:14 AM
BB is one of our friends from Ljubljana, not DERB himself, but this guy does some crazy [censored] from time to time too, his stats are 23/14/1.7

button is 24/9/0.8 after 90 hands and thats really all i know about him

Party Poker 100.00/200.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ...

whats my plan for the rest of this hand
daryn
11-20-2005, 01:27 AM
maybe he has a flush draw trying to clean up some paint card outs? maybe he's just trying to push his equity edge 3 way w/ flush draw.. i don't know, i would not give him the opportunity to take a free card on the turn, so i bet.

edit: oh, i didn't see that bb led out the turn. i think i would raise for the reasons stated above.. no cheap cards!
newhizzle
11-20-2005, 01:34 AM
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maybe he has a flush draw trying to clean up some paint card outs?

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buttons not really a regular, but if he knows BB like i do, he should know hes not folding to 2 more bets on the flop very often, i dont really see how he could be trying to clean up anything, i could most players call/capping a flush draw, his stats are pretty passive though

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i don't know, i would not give him the opportunity to take a free card on the turn, so i bet.

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BB already bet
newhizzle
11-20-2005, 01:37 AM
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edit: oh, i didn't see that bb led out the turn. i think i would raise for the reasons stated above.. no cheap cards!


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whats the plan if either of them 3-bets?
daryn
11-20-2005, 01:39 AM
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edit: oh, i didn't see that bb led out the turn. i think i would raise for the reasons stated above.. no cheap cards!


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whats the plan if either of them 3-bets?

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i'm no statmaster but i think if the button 3 bets it's time to give up, but if the bb 3 bets, call down
flawless_victory
11-20-2005, 01:41 AM
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edit: oh, i didn't see that bb led out the turn. i think i would raise for the reasons stated above.. no cheap cards!


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whats the plan if either of them 3-bets?

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i'm no statmaster but i think if the button 3 bets it's time to give up, but if the bb 3 bets, call down

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i would do what daryn said.
mike l.
11-20-2005, 04:18 AM
about 85% of the time or more bb will have a worse A and button will have a club draw given the way preflop/flop/their stats reads. may even be 90%. so try and cap that turn if theyll let you.
BurnsvilleCardClub
11-20-2005, 04:34 AM
smells like a possible flush draw donk- easy raise
flawless_victory
11-20-2005, 04:40 AM
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smells like a possible flush draw donk- easy raise

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dude, that is one bad read.
newhizzle
11-20-2005, 05:09 AM
well i pretty much figured that button's flop play either meant he had clubs or had a monster, after BB bet he wasnt getting a free card(i would have bet if he had checked), so i called like a pussy, button raised, BB called, and i thought about it for a minute and called again

river was a blank

BB checked, i checked, button bet, BB folded? i called and he had A8 for the boat


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smells like a possible flush draw donk- easy raise

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dude, that is one bad read.

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normally id agree, i think betting a flush draw in BB's spot on the turn is horible, but after he folded i really cant put him on anything else, theres no way hes folding an ace, and he has been known to do straight dumb ass [censored] even in multiway pots
baronzeus
11-20-2005, 06:16 AM
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well i pretty much figured that button's flop play either meant he had clubs or had a monster, after BB bet he wasnt getting a free card(i would have bet if he had checked), so i called like a pussy, button raised, BB called, and i thought about it for a minute and called again

river was a blank

BB checked, i checked, button bet, BB folded? i called and he had A8 for the boat


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smells like a possible flush draw donk- easy raise

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dude, that is one bad read.

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normally id agree, i think betting a flush draw in BB's spot on the turn is horible, but after he folded i really cant put him on anything else, theres no way hes folding an ace, and he has been known to do straight dumb ass [censored] even in multiway pots

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theres no way you should call that turn after you get raised by button imo.
jason_t
11-20-2005, 12:21 PM
It's imperative that you fold to the turn raise.