30+3 Deepstack hand J8s

No reads here. I am reading 2+2 and have the flu and am hoping to bust soon so I can sleep, but not on purpose...

I have ~8800 in chips, MP has me covered. Blinds are 15/30.

Folded to villain in MP who raises to 120, folded to me in the BB with J /images/graemlins/club.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif, I call.

Flop is A /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
I check, he bets 210 I call.

Turn is 9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
I think about betting but decide against it, he bets 330, I c/r to 1100 and he pushes. So it's 7352 for me to call.

[TomHimself]

call, then take some medicine and hopefully it will make u sleepy then u can take a nap

[aaronbeen]

It's been over 20 minutes and he obtained chips somehow if he has you covered. Shouldn't you have a read?

Without reads I'd consider betting strong, possibly even potting it every street, and calling down a raise. Your line allows him to fold AK pretty easily. You could check call the flop and lead the turn if you are concerned with getting some extra chips vs a mid pair.

Despite what I said, once he fails to fold to your turn checkraise (which informs him you can beat 2 pair) I still think you have to assume he is a donk with AK and call. His flop bet does not look like AA or 99. He could have AKh or something. The flu-sleep situation is also a factor.

he was moved from a different table with those chips and he didnt do anything noticable in the meantime.

That was me in the hand, sorry about that, you raise on flop im gone.

I still have a healthy stack but ive gone very card dead.

[aaronbeen]

Thanks for spoiling the ending! By the way betting that flop with 99 is terrible.

Only one player in the pot? Trying represent a decent ace with my preflop raise, 80% of the time other player folds there, and if i get reraised i can easily lay it down.

[aaronbeen]

You only get called when you are beaten. I suppose you can bluff out 1010, but everything else that folds you were ahead of anyway. You are bluffing with the best hand and the fact that it works 80% of the time isn't very relevant. I guess random broadway hands are drawing to 6 outs but I wouldn't be too concerned. If you are afraid of getting the pot taken away from you (and somehow feel a bet here is the best way to prevent that, I'm not sure I agree) or your opponent hitting a 6-outer then it's fine to bet. But you are doing 7/8 pot or something if I am correct. You don't need to spew all those when your opponent (OP/hero) is likely to have an ace anyway.

he called from BB, he could have a much wider range of hands than an ace. Agree to disagree i guess, but following up on preflop bets into one oponent is a good way to take down alot of pots, after his smooth call i had a feeling i was crushed and was checking to river unless i suckout. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Exitonly]

i have no input on the hand, but

"I am reading 2+2 and have the flu and am hoping to bust soon so I can sleep, but not on purpose..."

Man i can freaking relate to taht. Teh flu sucks ass.

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Oh, and i call there.

it's fine aces, i needed out anyways. I wass getting worse every second i stayed up. Needless to say I wouldn't have joined if I felt that bad at the time.

On the hand I agree that having position + me being the BB + being HU = an automatic bet on the flop. I played bad for the size stacks we had and I deserved to lose. Hope you did well afterwards.

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it's fine aces, i needed out anyways. I wass getting worse every second i stayed up. Needless to say I wouldn't have joined if I felt that bad at the time.

On the hand I agree that having position + me being the BB + being HU = an automatic bet on the flop. I played bad for the size stacks we had and I deserved to lose. Hope you did well afterwards.

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Hah thanks, still cant figure out why someone wouldnt fire into the flop. I made a horrible... HORRIBLE read and called off my chips in one hand. I suck.

[MeanGreenTT]

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No reads here. I am reading 2+2 and have the flu and am hoping to bust soon so I can sleep, but not on purpose...

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Don't these things last for HOURS???? A little more than 30 minutes in and you're looking to bust out????