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durron597
11-18-2005, 07:34 PM
Minraising was not unusual for this villian. He seemed decent. Standard? Crazy?

Edit: I just went back - he was raising a lot of pots and had done quite a bit of minraising-fold, one minraise the flop was rags, check check, turn rag check check, river K he bets other guy calls he shows KJo. But he was doing it a lot.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

UTG (t1605)
MP1 (t3690)
MP2 (t1050)
CO (t1890)
Button (t2505)
SB (t1150)
Hero (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t900) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t900) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1210 (All-In)</font>,

splashpot
11-18-2005, 07:36 PM
I don't like it. But I also hate defending my blind with crap. I fold.

durron597
11-18-2005, 07:41 PM
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I don't like it. But I also hate defending my blind with crap. I fold.

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You don't like preflop or postflop?

bjb23
11-18-2005, 07:44 PM
preflop im folding.

but since you called, im definitely pushing the turn.

jeffraider
11-18-2005, 07:46 PM
I fold preflop with your stack I think, but I really like the way you played it postflop.

splashpot
11-18-2005, 07:49 PM
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I don't like it. But I also hate defending my blind with crap. I fold.

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You don't like preflop or postflop?

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I fold preflop. Post flop I think it works because it looks like you hit an Ace and tried check raising on the flop but it didn't work.

11-18-2005, 07:57 PM
I tend to agree, I would have folded K-5 to the raise. There was no pressure to get mixed up in the hand even though I was getting very good pot odds.

I do think a 300t bet defines the hand here.

I liked the turn bet a lot a super semi-bluff.

durron597
11-18-2005, 08:26 PM
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I do think a 300t bet defines the hand here.


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Are you saying you would bet the flop? Why?

sofere
11-18-2005, 08:26 PM
If villain has been minraising often then I think its fine to call here. Have you seen him showdown any of the minraises?

I like the turn push because you also have the flush draw. So you have outs if he was slowplaying.

I don't think a pair of 8s calls here and I don't think a pair of Queens checks behind on the flop then calls a turn push with the Ace out ther, so I'm really only afraid of him slowplaying a pair of Aces or better. And even then your drawing to the nuts.

Iamafish
11-18-2005, 08:46 PM
This is a weird move. I don't think I could do this just becuase Im out of position. He coulda raised it with A crap, too.

I think the PF call is fine though.

Melchiades
11-18-2005, 09:12 PM
I like it. This is the kind of calls preflop I make all the time. I'm more or less unable to fold to a minraise. I'm not sure I push the turn, but i definitely bet it. Is it a leak?

durron597
11-18-2005, 09:55 PM
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I like it. This is the kind of calls preflop I make all the time. I'm more or less unable to fold to a minraise. I'm not sure I push the turn, but i definitely bet it. Is it a leak?

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The pot is 900, you have only about 1200 more behind, what bet amount are you suggesting?

Melchiades
11-18-2005, 09:59 PM
Didn't look at stack and pot size here. I push. My problem is more that i call with almost any two in this situation. I'm just more or less unable to fold to a minraise, it feels like an insult minraising my BB.

durron597
11-18-2005, 10:17 PM
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Didn't look at stack and pot size here. I push. My problem is more that i call with almost any two in this situation. I'm just more or less unable to fold to a minraise, it feels like an insult minraising my BB.

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There are times for it, just Kx against a frequent minraiser did not seem like the time for it.

ilya
11-18-2005, 11:19 PM
I would pretty much never call here preflop but I like your line on the flop &amp; turn.

What's your plan when you call preflop? I mean...are you going to the felt on any King-high flop, or what?

cha59
11-19-2005, 01:17 AM
I probably fold preflop, except for the times when I'm against a villian like you described, then I might call.

I like the way you played it the rest of the way. NH, hope it worked out for you.