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ilya
11-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

UTG+1 (t345)
Hero (t795)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t1485)
CO (t1710)
Button (t690)
SB (t575)
BB :#A500AF(Villain)/ (t770)
UTG (t860)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB :#A500AF(Villain)/ checks.

Flop: (t75) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets t40</font>, Hero calls t40.

Turn: (t155) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, Villain calls t100.

River: (t355) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, Hero ...?

Comments on all streets welcome (except for "fold preflop"), but mostly I wonder whether you think betting the river might be a good idea.

citanul
11-18-2005, 04:44 PM
KQs TPTK

that sir, is unpossible.

HonchoOverload
11-18-2005, 04:44 PM
Raise the flop!!! Make it 160-200 to go.

ilya
11-18-2005, 04:45 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is unpossible.

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haha right you are.

i need a break.

11-18-2005, 04:47 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Raise the flop. Pop it to atleast t150. That makes the turn and river play easier.

pineapple888
11-18-2005, 04:50 PM
It's not TPTK, by the way.

I raise him to 135 or so on the flop. There's no way I let him draw.

I check behind on the turn. If I decided to bet for some reason, it would be more than that. Are you trying to represent that *you* were drawing for the flush and are trying to keep him in? If so, it will be lost on virtually all 22 players.

I check the river. Maybe you could run a semi-bluff with three to a flush on the board, but the fourth club just hurts too much.

The Don
11-18-2005, 04:51 PM
I'd raise the flop to 130 given the flush draw...

The way you played it, I actually think there is value in betting the river. I would make another very small 100 chip bet.

handsome
11-18-2005, 04:51 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Someone's sarcasm meter needs tuning.

Anyway, yea, raise the flop.

bluef0x
11-18-2005, 04:51 PM
You should either check or bet out 250ish on the river... since I'm a chicken I check and lose to his two pair/no flush. The villain cold calling that 100 chip bet is scary and I'd put him on A of clubs or two pair, both beat you but you could get one off of his hand. How frisky are you feeling? /images/graemlins/wink.gif


Yuck, hate this situation.

durron597
11-18-2005, 04:54 PM
The only better hands you might get to fold are small clubs, but this is not a situation where I would try to bet out small club.

I would take the free showdown. The rest of the hand was played fine IMO.

11-18-2005, 04:57 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Someone's sarcasm meter needs tuning.

Anyways, yes, raise the flop.

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jeffraider
11-18-2005, 05:36 PM
Betting the river seems suicidal and I raise the flop to 150ish.

citanul
11-18-2005, 05:58 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Someone's sarcasm meter needs tuning.

Anyways, yes, raise the flop.

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i'm going to only say this once, because you're not supposed to personally insult people around here.

you're an idiot and a clown. and anyways isn't a word.

c

microbet
11-18-2005, 06:02 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Me fail English. That's unpossible.

SonnyJay
11-18-2005, 06:50 PM
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KQs TPTK

that sir, is impossible.

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Me fail English. That's unpossible.

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Respect for the Ralph Wiggum reference.

Like most others, I'm raising this flop. I probably check the river. I don't know what clubs are calling you here, but I think a value bet of t100 will get calls from some middle clubs. I like the free showdown here, but it's close.

-SonnyJay

hyde
11-18-2005, 07:08 PM
I re-raise on the flop to get rid of the flush draw,
find out if he has something big,
most often win it right there,
and stop spending chips if he stays around.