YES! I ran the [censored] out of a red light and got busted cold

[bad beetz]

I'm running real real good when it comes to moving violations.

Tonight I ran a red light, and it was solid red 20 feet before entry. Then a flash went off 3 times. My brain slowly realized that I'd just been [censored] by big brother, and I'll get some mail shortly.

Anyone know if this is just a fine or traffic school?

Fine I could give a half a [censored] about

Traffic school will make me go back there and do things to that camera. Nasty things.

[Edge34]

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Traffic school will make me go back there and do things to that camera. Nasty things.

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I certainly hope you do this, if only for the surefire gold that will be the following trip report. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Boris]

i'm gonna kick your ass the next time I see you.

[bad beetz]

?

Joking right? I think you're my favorite person I've met on 2+2

[Boris]

c'mon man. I couldn't do that. 18 y.o chicks around the world would be popping vicodin and wine coolers if I messed up that pretty face of yours.

[handsome]

Idiot.

[astroglide]

i agree with the installation of red light cameras, but i think speeding cameras are [censored]

[Thythe]

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i agree with the installation of red light cameras, but i think speeding cameras are [censored]

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agreed. speeding cameras violate nearly every principle i have.

[JonPKibble]

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Tonight I ran a red light, and it was solid red 20 feet before entry. Then a flash went off 3 times. My brain slowly realized that I'd just been [censored] by big brother, and I'll get some mail shortly.

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Nice job asshat.

[Edge34]

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i agree with the installation of red light cameras, but i think speeding cameras are [censored]

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agreed. speeding cameras violate nearly every principle i have.

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The principles involving the moral high-ground of breaking the law?

Nothing personal, just feeling kinda nitty... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Actually, I've seen those little radar things that show how fast you're going on the side of the road, but I didn't think they had cameras in 'em.

[astroglide]

i've never known those "here's your speed" gadgets to have cameras. i don't understand why they aren't employed more liberally. i see empty cop cars parked strategically for days, and i'm pretty sure a crown vic runs more than an electro-sign.

as far as the 'moral high ground' goes, running a red light is a much more clear and present danger to me than exceeding the speed limit. i would be fine with 100mph+ speed cameras. unless it's clearly reckless, i think it's bogus to change a classic game of cat and mouse.

[dsw1977]

Here you go. (http://www.ticketassassin.com)

[d10]

Photo tickets are treated like parking tickets since it's impossible to prove who's actually driving the car. You'll have to pay a fine, but it won't show up on your record and you won't hear anything from your insurance company. Don't take it to court and expect to win because there's no proof who was driving the car though. If you say it wasn't you, they'll ask for the name and address of who it was, and given that it's your car they'll expect you to know. I've seen that tried, it doesn't work.

[whiskeytown]

the secret is to run it slowly....so it can't pick you up on motion detectors...

you may be able to fight it in court - GL - search the internet for precedent.

RB

[djj6835]

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Photo tickets are treated like parking tickets since it's impossible to prove who's actually driving the car. You'll have to pay a fine, but it won't show up on your record and you won't hear anything from your insurance company. Don't take it to court and expect to win because there's no proof who was driving the car though. If you say it wasn't you, they'll ask for the name and address of who it was, and given that it's your car they'll expect you to know. I've seen that tried, it doesn't work.



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Why wouldn't this work? I lived in an apartment with three other guys and only one of us could have a car at the apartment. The kid who owned the car would let us borrow it and at times he wouldn't know which one of us was driving it.

[Evan]

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the secret is to run it slowly....so it can't pick you up on motion detectors...

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Getting caught>>>getting hit

[Ulysses]

If you have to do traffic school, you can do it online now in no time flat.

[Landon_McFly]

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If you say it wasn't you, they'll ask for the name and address of who it was, and given that it's your car they'll expect you to know. I've seen that tried, it doesn't work.

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What if you give them a name and address of someone who lives in another state? Or country? I mean a real person that you know. They aren't going to put out a warrant for Wang Chung in Bangladesh.

Fack the police

[chesspain]

Maybe you should grow up and learn how to drive more safely. Running red lights is very uncool.

[imported_The Vibesman]

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i've never known those "here's your speed" gadgets to have cameras. i don't understand why they aren't employed more liberally. i see empty cop cars parked strategically for days, and i'm pretty sure a crown vic runs more than an electro-sign.

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They have these around here. The town I work in has one and constantly puts it on a traffic heavy area of the main road where the speed limit is 45mph and the average speed of traffic until about 9 PM is 20mph. It's kind of funny to see one of those that says Watch Your Speed - 45 MPH and crawl by it doing 5.

[RunDownHouse]

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i've never known those "here's your speed" gadgets to have cameras. i don't understand why they aren't employed more liberally. i see empty cop cars parked strategically for days, and i'm pretty sure a crown vic runs more than an electro-sign.

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Some do, some don't. My mom was on the city council for a newly-incorporated city a few years ago. Since they were no longer under contract with the county police, they had to get a new PD up and running. They got one of those roadside speed things. It cost about $8k, if I remember correctly, and definitely did NOT have a camera. I thought it was funny when I heard people saying it did and that they slowed down for it - I usually sped up.

[rusty JEDI]

Not sure how it is there but here the redlight cameras dont all have cameras in them. They have 4 intersections with the box and sensors, and only 1 camera that they move around between the 4 intersectins. However, they all have a flash when you go through them whether the camera is installed or not. So if you run it and get the flash, your odds of getting a ticket are 1 in 4.

rJ

Running red lights may not be the smartest thing, but I got pulled over for my "license plate light" being out. I'd never even heard of a license plate light. Cops have nothing better to do than pull you over after midnight on a Friday/Saturday night

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...I'd never even heard of a license plate light. Cops have nothing better to do than pull you over after midnight on a Friday/Saturday night

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Here is a link to the Texas DPS Vehicle Inspection Website that deals with license plate lights:


Texas DPS Website (http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/inspection/rules_list.asp?itemdrop=License+Plate+Lamp&rejects ubmit=Go)

[danzasmack]

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Maybe you should grow up and learn how to drive more safely. Running red lights is very uncool.

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When I was in high school I drove like a tool, real fast. One day on my way to work a guy pulled up next to me, and I had my window open. He got my attention and then said with 100% sincerity in a very kind manner "hey, would you mind slowing down when you drive? I have kids, and it scares me to think what would happen if they ran into the middle of the street..."

That got me to slow down.

[DeathbySuckout]

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Anyone know if this is just a fine or traffic school?



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In Philadelphia, the red light camera will net you a $100 ticket.

[arod15]

really good to know. I think it varies but generalyl its just a fine ....

[Evan]

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I have kids, and it scares me to think what would happen if they ran into the middle of the street...

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I never really understtod this. In all my time growing up I never saw any of my friends spontaneously deside that "into the middle of the street" was a good place to run, especially with oncoming traffic. If that guy's kids are really itching to play some real life Frogger I think they have bigger problems than you going a few mph over the speed limit.

[benfranklin]

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Running red lights may not be the smartest thing, but I got pulled over for my "license plate light" being out. I'd never even heard of a license plate light. Cops have nothing better to do than pull you over after midnight on a Friday/Saturday night

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A burned-out light is a legitimate violation that gives them legal probable cause to stop you and check you for drinking, drugs, etc. (A lot of which goes on after midnight on a Friday/Saturday night. /images/graemlins/blush.gif )

[CORed]

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Running red lights may not be the smartest thing, but I got pulled over for my "license plate light" being out. I'd never even heard of a license plate light. Cops have nothing better to do than pull you over after midnight on a Friday/Saturday night

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If they pulled you over for a trivial violation on a Friday or Saturday night, they were probably actually trying to catch DUI's. The licence plate light being out is just a legal excuse to stop you. Then, if they smell alcohol, or you tell them you had "a couple of beers" when they ask you if you've had anything to drink, they can do the field sobriety, breathalyzer, etc.

[haakee]

It's definitely traffic school dude. And the fine is like $350 + the [censored] administrative $100 or so fee for traffic school. I guess you'd better play another negative 10 minutes of 40-80 to make it back.

[DMBFan23]

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I'm running real real good when it comes to moving violations.

Tonight I ran a red light, and it was solid red 20 feet before entry. Then a flash went off 3 times. My brain slowly realized that I'd just been [censored] by big brother, and I'll get some mail shortly.

Anyone know if this is just a fine or traffic school?

Fine I could give a half a [censored] about

Traffic school will make me go back there and do things to that camera. Nasty things.

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in virginia the traffic cam is a 50 dollar fine, no DMV involvement, no insurance involvement, no nothing. they just want your $. and I have gotten two of them so I know what I'm talking about.

they say very explicitly in the letter "no points will be added to your record if you pay the fine".

[DMBFan23]

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I guess you'd better play another negative 10 minutes of 40-80 to make it back.

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hahahahahahahahahahhaa

what state are y'all in where this is traffic school though? where I am it's [censored] clown shoes

[haakee]

California. You can do it online. It is indeed clown shoes.

[jman220]

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If you say it wasn't you, they'll ask for the name and address of who it was, and given that it's your car they'll expect you to know. I've seen that tried, it doesn't work.

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What if you give them a name and address of someone who lives in another state? Or country? I mean a real person that you know. They aren't going to put out a warrant for Wang Chung in Bangladesh.

Fack the police

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Perjury is bad. That said, it really should be the prosecution's burden to show that you were driving, not your burden to show that you weren't. Granting the prosecution a presumption that you were the driver doesn't seem right. What state/jurisidiction is this in? I've never heard of a rule like this, and I'm curious.

[Sponger15SB]

STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASS HOLE!


http://www.jimcarreyonline.com/pics/liar/pics/liar31.jpg

[Boris]

Nice. I love that flick.

[DMBFan23]

ok now this thread has made me laugh twice

[Randy_Refeld]

I used ot live right next to one of those stupid phot enforced intersections. I think the camera made it more dangerous. Normally at an intersection if the light turns yelllow you drive thorugh it and clear the intersection. WIth the addition of the casmera everyoen woudl slam on their brakes at the yellow light. When the camera went live that intersection became such that I would drive some other way to not have to deal with it.

[chesspain]

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I have kids, and it scares me to think what would happen if they ran into the middle of the street...

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I never really understtod this. In all my time growing up I never saw any of my friends spontaneously deside that "into the middle of the street" was a good place to run, especially with oncoming traffic. If that guy's kids are really itching to play some real life Frogger I think they have bigger problems than you going a few mph over the speed limit.

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When people talk about kids running into the street, they are referring to five year olds who might dart after an errant ball without thinking about where they are going.

Why is this so difficult to imagine?

[Ulysses]

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Anyone know if this is just a fine or traffic school?



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In Philadelphia, the red light camera will net you a $100 ticket.

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In Cali, I believe red light tix start at $370.

[MoreWineII]

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I have kids, and it scares me to think what would happen if they ran into the middle of the street...

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I never really understtod this. In all my time growing up I never saw any of my friends spontaneously deside that "into the middle of the street" was a good place to run, especially with oncoming traffic. If that guy's kids are really itching to play some real life Frogger I think they have bigger problems than you going a few mph over the speed limit.

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When people talk about kids running into the street, they are referring to five year olds who might dart after an errant ball without thinking about where they are going.

Why is this so difficult to imagine?

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Probably because he doesn't have kids.

[MoreWineII]

anyway, i used to drive like a douche too. but i think there comes a certain age for most of us where you realize the thirty seconds or so you gain tailgaiting and running lights and all that [censored] isn't worth a.) our lives or b.) higher insurance rates.

[Evan]

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I have kids, and it scares me to think what would happen if they ran into the middle of the street...

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I never really understtod this. In all my time growing up I never saw any of my friends spontaneously deside that "into the middle of the street" was a good place to run, especially with oncoming traffic. If that guy's kids are really itching to play some real life Frogger I think they have bigger problems than you going a few mph over the speed limit.

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When people talk about kids running into the street, they are referring to five year olds who might dart after an errant ball without thinking about where they are going.

Why is this so difficult to imagine?

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Probably because he doesn't have kids.

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More likely because I was smart enough not to do that by the time I had enough motor skills to "dart" anywhere.

[Analyst]

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More likely because I was smart enough not to do that by the time I had enough motor skills to "dart" anywhere.

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Not all two and three year olds (who can dart quite well) are as smart as you remember being. Living in a neighborhood with a fair number of small children, my default assumption is that they aren't that smart, and I drive accordingly.

[Evan]

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More likely because I was smart enough not to do that by the time I had enough motor skills to "dart" anywhere.

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Not all two and three year olds (who can dart quite well) are as smart as you remember being. Living in a neighborhood with a fair number of small children, my default assumption is that they aren't that smart, and I drive accordingly.

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I doubt there are lots of kids running around on roads that have traffic lights. Doesn't really matter of course, I just hate that line of reasoning that most people have. If your kids are actively trying to get run over maybe it's better off that way.

[MoreWineII]

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I doubt there are lots of kids running around on roads that have traffic lights. Doesn't really matter of course, I just hate that line of reasoning that most people have. If your kids are actively trying to get run over maybe it's better off that way.

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Probably because he doesn't have kids.

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[CD56]

cant you buy opaque covers for your license plate that prevent the cameras from getting a good picture?

i thought i heard about something like this when these were first coming out

[bad beetz]

Ha!

You're avatar is a picture of your son.

[bad beetz]

There was no danger to others. I could see in both directions. I drive extremely agressively, but safer than all gradnmothers. There are better people to worry about I, but you may have flipped me off once or twice.

[bad beetz]

Thank you.

[bad beetz]

YES! this is the news I wanted.

[bad beetz]

DR. BLUMQUIST
Now, there are four states of being
in the cannabis, or marijuana,
society: Cool, Groovy, Hip, and
Square. The square is seldom if
ever cool. He is not "with it,"
that is, he doesn't know "what's
happening." But if he manages to
figure it out, he moves up a notch
to "hip."

[bad beetz]

Are you Mexican?

[bad beetz]

One day in high school I ran over some kids, and it got me to slow down for a little bit till whatever was stuck worked it's way back out.

[david050173]

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There was no danger to others. I could see in both directions. I drive extremely agressively, but safer than all gradnmothers. There are better people to worry about I, but you may have flipped me off once or twice.

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Nope you sound exactly like the person I should be worried about. The delusion ones who think they are the good drivers and that everyone else is bad. Numerous studies have shown that these people way overestimate thier driving skills and have an incredible ability to shift blame for accidents to others despite the fact that they get in them far more often than other people.

[Cubswin]

in virginia the traffic cam is a 50 dollar fine, no DMV involvement, no insurance involvement, no nothing. they just want your $. and I have gotten two of them so I know what I'm talking about. \

As of July 1, VA no longer has red light cameras.

[Evan]

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I doubt there are lots of kids running around on roads that have traffic lights. Doesn't really matter of course, I just hate that line of reasoning that most people have. If your kids are actively trying to get run over maybe it's better off that way.

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Probably because he doesn't have kids.

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Or because I just have a different opinion? You said it once and I responded; what was the point of saying it again? I don't believe that children getting run over is a realistic and material concern when thinking about people driving too fast. If you do, it may not be because you have kids but instead because you're irrational.

Now please respond to this by quoting your "Probably because he doesn't have kids" post so you can be the first person that I put on ignore.

[d10]

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Photo tickets are treated like parking tickets since it's impossible to prove who's actually driving the car. You'll have to pay a fine, but it won't show up on your record and you won't hear anything from your insurance company. Don't take it to court and expect to win because there's no proof who was driving the car though. If you say it wasn't you, they'll ask for the name and address of who it was, and given that it's your car they'll expect you to know. I've seen that tried, it doesn't work.



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Why wouldn't this work? I lived in an apartment with three other guys and only one of us could have a car at the apartment. The kid who owned the car would let us borrow it and at times he wouldn't know which one of us was driving it.

[/ QUOTE ]

In that case, the district court judge will just find you guilty and tell you to appeal to circuit court if you don't like it. Since the fine is probably less than $100 and doesn't hurt your record, you won't appeal.

[VarlosZ]

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I doubt there are lots of kids running around on roads that have traffic lights. Doesn't really matter of course, I just hate that line of reasoning that most people have.

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You hate the line of reasoning that says you shouldn't drive unusually fast because you might kill someone? It doesn't have to be a kid you're worried about; children are just the clearest example of why you should drive carefully.

Incidentally, there are many, many neighborhoods with narrow streets, traffic lights, and families/children recreating outside.

[Evan]

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I doubt there are lots of kids running around on roads that have traffic lights. Doesn't really matter of course, I just hate that line of reasoning that most people have.

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You hate the line of reasoning that says you shouldn't drive unusually fast because you might kill someone? It doesn't have to be a kid you're worried about; children are just the clearest example of why you should drive carefully.

Incidentally, there are many, many neighborhoods with narrow streets, traffic lights, and families/children recreating outside.

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Yes, I hate pretty much any line of reasoning that is ridiculous. I'm not saying driving excessively fast is a good idea, but it's got nothing to do with children getting knocked around like bowling pins.

How many children have you seen hit by cars? How many have your friends seen? Your friends friends? Now divde that 0 by the number of people you've seen driving too fast.

[bad beetz]

Numerous studies have shown that I shouldn't have unprotected sex with strangers, too.

But HA!

Yo sista tossed my salad.

[VarlosZ]

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How many children have you seen hit by cars?

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One, actually. I can't speak for my friends and their friends, but it's irrelevant. The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."

Data: About 5,000 pedestrians are killed in car accidents each year in the U.S., and roughly 25 times that number are injured. Cite (http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/stats/2000_how_killed_type.html). Cite (http://www.personal-injury.com/practice_areas/Pedestrian_Accident_Death.asp).

These figures are very small compared to the total number of pedestrians and motorists, but they are undoubtedly made larger by reckless driving, and the consequences are serious enough that every reasonable precaution should be taken to prevent even so unlikely an event.

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I'm not saying driving excessively fast is a good idea, but it's got nothing to do with children getting knocked around like bowling pins.

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Don't be silly. It's got to do with damaging your car, damaging other cars, injuring yourself, injuring other drivers, and, yes, knocking around children like bowling pins.

You should not merely take the statement at face value. "You might kill a kid" is pretty good shorthand for "this is reckless behavior."