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WalkAmongUs
11-17-2005, 08:48 PM
Yeah, so I raise and get reraised. My heart wants to muck but my head says I might be getting enough pot odds to call. If these damn things weren't suited they'd have been mucked in a second.

Am I getting enough to call here?


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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero ???
gharp
11-17-2005, 08:53 PM
I would definitely call, getting ~7:1. The BB calling helps you out a lot and your implied odds are great if you flop a monster since these guys clearly like their hands.
milesdyson
11-17-2005, 08:55 PM
unsuited, instafold. suited, instacall.
Redd
11-17-2005, 08:56 PM
I don't have time to do the Shillx-style math right now but it looks like you're better than 7-1 to hit a flush/straight draw or better on the flop. I this were KQo I'd fold it for 2 more but I call here.
WalkAmongUs
11-17-2005, 08:57 PM
but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...
shant
11-17-2005, 09:10 PM
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but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...

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You're going to have to be comfortable getting away from flopping a pair based on the postflop action.
11-17-2005, 09:16 PM
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but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...

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You may not necessarily be drawing dead. It depends on the board texture. If you do flop top pair, the pot will be big enough to call 1 bet as you have outs to make 2 pair. Your position is not ideal tho.
11-17-2005, 09:28 PM
Just call.
eviljeff
11-17-2005, 09:51 PM
instacall. KQs plays great 4-way
ArturiusX
11-17-2005, 10:23 PM
Call. If it was KQo, and I had some stats, I might consider a fold.