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zgall1
11-17-2005, 01:07 AM
Let's say you believe that very good players can drop 300 BB simply due to a terrible run of cards. If that player could see the other player's cards and had that same run of terrible cards, what do you think the highest winrate they could achieve (in BB/100)?

ctv1116
11-17-2005, 01:53 AM
Well, you'd be able to play perfect poker; your winrate is now a function of the number of mistakes/devations from the Fundamental Theorem of Poker that your opponent makes.

Sponger15SB
11-17-2005, 05:06 AM
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Well, you'd be able to play perfect poker

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No, you wouldn't.

POKhER
11-17-2005, 05:42 AM
You could see two guys holding AA, You raise your flush draw on the flop due to small edge and one folds and the other raises you /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

That'd mean you just raised without edge, infact a -Edge.

Not perfect poker.

UATrewqaz
11-17-2005, 11:41 AM
Basically you'd still have missing information, how they will react to your actions.

11-17-2005, 12:32 PM
I think key info is missing. Can they see your cards? Can they see everyone's cards? Do they know you can see there cards?

11-17-2005, 12:39 PM
Another thought: Among players of equal skill, when all of them can see each others cards, the winrate would end up negative due to rake.

Unless, (thinking about Mike Caros law of least tilt) tilt levels & control of emotions are not equal which could give you the edge to break free of negativity.

tripdad
11-17-2005, 01:09 PM
3BB/100 hands

tripdad

zgall1
11-17-2005, 04:59 PM
Assume you can see everyone's cards and nobody knows you can see them