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kidcolin
11-16-2005, 03:20 AM
I don't know if I'm getting paranoid because this happened about a million times recently, but I'm worried I'm paying off too much. Do you ever fold these types of hands? One's a straight up raise, one's a checkraise, and one's a bet/3-bet.

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (5.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB.




Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.70 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB.




Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB.

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 03:23 AM
I really don't see a laydown in any of the hands that you posted. The last hand, maybe, but given the action, I'd have a very hard time putting the villian on a better hand then you

kidcolin
11-16-2005, 03:33 AM
The last one I figured he must have KJ once he three bet, but it was about the most retarded flopped nuts line of all time.

flawless_victory
11-16-2005, 04:08 AM
first 2 are automatic calls and the third one i cap all day.

Derek in NYC
11-16-2005, 04:15 AM
Impossible to fold, and I play every hand the same.

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 04:18 AM
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The last one I figured he must have KJ once he three bet, but it was about the most retarded flopped nuts line of all time.

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since you haven't given any reads, I have a hard time giving that guy credit for KJ, but I really don't know if capping is the right thing or not

etizzle
11-16-2005, 04:22 AM
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first 2 are automatic calls and the third one i cap all day.

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dealer_toe
11-16-2005, 04:31 AM
First two are easy calls, second one I cap or call based on my read.

imported_leader
11-16-2005, 05:35 AM
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first 2 are automatic calls and the third one i cap all day.

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11-16-2005, 06:10 AM
I fold 0/3. You will win more than your fair share of those hands.

MrBig30
11-16-2005, 06:41 AM
Folding either of those would be bad IMO. I call all of them, third one I like a cap although it is probably close. Is there really 50%+ chance he held KJ/AA/QQ/TT in the BB and played it like that? I dont think so.

Spicymoose
11-16-2005, 07:37 AM
I donīt fold any. In the last one he has 33, so I cap.

Guy McSucker
11-16-2005, 08:22 AM
No folding.

Your hands in all cases are way better than the opponent has any right to put you on so there's a really good chance he's raising with less than you have.

Guy.

SteveGriff
11-16-2005, 10:08 AM
Nothing much wrong with any of those hands posted. Keep up the good work Soldier

Steve Griff

kidcolin
11-16-2005, 11:32 AM
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First two are easy calls, second one I cap or call based on my read.

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There are players I'd cap the 3rd one against. This guy was very passive and kept pausing on each street, which he doesn't usually do. At first I figured a hand like QJ or JT. I was pretty sure I was toast after the river 3-bet. His aggression factor was aroud 0.6 or something.

Poldi
11-16-2005, 11:47 AM
Please dont start folding these.