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Karak567
11-16-2005, 02:12 AM
I don't make OT posts like... ever, but I thought this is a good, fun question to find an answer to!

I say yes!

mlagoo
11-16-2005, 02:15 AM
seems like it should be. otherwise 8 tablers cant hit grand slams /images/graemlins/frown.gif

11-16-2005, 02:15 AM
But it makes it so much easier. I think after you start up a set of 8, you should designate 4 to be in set 1 and 4 to be in set 2 so that this problem is forever solved.

11-16-2005, 02:27 AM
It depends on if they were 4 that you started in a row. Winning 1,4,6,and 8 is not a slam but 1,2,3,4 is. I also feel that 3,4,5,6 is a slam.

11-16-2005, 02:30 AM
No way. If 3,4,5,6 is a slam, then a 4-tabler should count it if he gets 3,4 in one set and 1,2 in the next.

I'm putting my foot down here: it's only a slam for an 8-tabler if he gets 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8.

tshort
11-16-2005, 02:42 AM
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No way. If 3,4,5,6 is a slam, then a 4-tabler should count it if he gets 3,4 in one set and 1,2 in the next.

I'm putting my foot down here: it's only a slam for an 8-tabler if he gets 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8.

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Noah is right. It is obvious why...

Assuming even finish distribution, the chance of winning each tournament in a set of 4 is .01%. On the other hand, the chance of winning 4 out of a set of 8 is .46%. You can't call that a grand slam when it is 46 times as likely to happen.

The 3,4,5,6 or 2,3,4,5, etc, argument is bad too. This scenerario is 3 times as likely to happen as winning a set of 4.

11-16-2005, 02:42 AM
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No way. If 3,4,5,6 is a slam, then a 4-tabler should count it if he gets 3,4 in one set and 1,2 in the next.

I'm putting my foot down here: it's only a slam for an 8-tabler if he gets 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8.

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It's a grand slam if it's 4 in a row, but this is only if it is counted by when a tourney is started. I'm sure some people will see 4 wins in a row and think they got a grand slam but if someone is 8 tabling in a set then this logic would be incorrect. Also I think this can only count if it's in the same session

raptor517
11-16-2005, 03:22 AM
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No way. If 3,4,5,6 is a slam, then a 4-tabler should count it if he gets 3,4 in one set and 1,2 in the next.

I'm putting my foot down here: it's only a slam for an 8-tabler if he gets 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8.

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It's a grand slam if it's 4 in a row, but this is only if it is counted by when a tourney is started. I'm sure some people will see 4 wins in a row and think they got a grand slam but if someone is 8 tabling in a set then this logic would be incorrect. Also I think this can only count if it's in the same session

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zing. it has to be 4 in a row, doesnt matter when they are started. back to back to back to back. holla

Big Limpin'
11-16-2005, 03:34 AM
If i see 4 finish in a row, and they all are 1sts, thats a gran slam. To me anyways. I claim it. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Sure its somewhat more probable with many games in sets, the ITMs are all bunched up. But its still super rare, for me anyways.

Im a singles hitter, man ....usually one out of a set is a 1st. SOme sets are doubles, odd triple...homerun.

/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Is getting 4 in a row, 3 in a row, 2in a row on the same day considered hitting for the cycle? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

UMTerp
11-16-2005, 03:38 AM
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I like the push though. I don't do that very often when I flop a monster but maybe I will start doing it.

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You were probably one of those people that thought Tiger Woods won the Grand Slam after he won the Masters that next year too, eh?

Has to be either 1-4 or 5-8 (counting in the order you started them) if you ask me...

jeffraider
11-16-2005, 03:39 AM
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If i see 4 finish in a row, and they all are 1sts, thats a gran slam. To me anyways. I claim it. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Sure its somewhat more probable with many games in sets, the ITMs are all bunched up. But its still super rare, for me anyways.

Im a singles hitter, man ....usually one out of a set is a 1st. SOme sets are doubles, odd triple...homerun.

/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Is getting 4 in a row, 3 in a row, 2in a row on the same day considered hitting for the cycle? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Hitting the cycle is 1st 2nd 3rd 4th in a row!

HesseJam
11-16-2005, 03:42 AM
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No way. If 3,4,5,6 is a slam, then a 4-tabler should count it if he gets 3,4 in one set and 1,2 in the next.

I'm putting my foot down here: it's only a slam for an 8-tabler if he gets 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8.

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It's a grand slam if it's 4 in a row, but this is only if it is counted by when a tourney is started. I'm sure some people will see 4 wins in a row and think they got a grand slam but if someone is 8 tabling in a set then this logic would be incorrect. Also I think this can only count if it's in the same session

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zing. it has to be 4 in a row, doesnt matter when they are started. back to back to back to back. holla

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Well, the pure GS is a set of 4 for 1st and not match 3, 4 of the first pack plus match 1,2 of the 2nd set. Also, if you count it like you propose and you start 8 games within a couple of minutes, chances are that your 4 1sts take longest and thus finish consecutively.

11-16-2005, 03:42 AM
Everyone who disagrees with me on this is a cheater, a commie, and of questionable sexual orientation.

Hope this clarifies things.

11-16-2005, 03:51 AM
i want a grand slam!!!!!!

Freudian
11-16-2005, 04:11 AM
1-4, 5-8. Don't listen to those that wish to dilute the meaning of a Grand Slam. We don't need their kiddie pool Grand Slams.

HesseJam
11-16-2005, 04:13 AM
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1-4, 5-8. Don't listen to those that wish to dilute the meaning of a Grand Slam. We don't need their kiddie pool Grand Slams.

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Slim Pickens
11-16-2005, 04:16 AM
It has to be 1,2,3,4 or 5,6,7,8. I six-table. Is there some sort of um... cricket or something analogy I can use? ...not that it will ever happen.

bambi
11-16-2005, 04:58 AM
does it count, if you win the last 2 of youre session, only 1 tabling, then win youre first two the next day also 1 tabling?

tshort
11-16-2005, 05:32 AM
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does it count, if you win the last 2 of youre session, only 1 tabling, then win youre first two the next day also 1 tabling?

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I don't think it has been discussed, but I think you can call getting all 1sts in a set of 1-tabling a "home run."

jon462
11-16-2005, 10:37 AM
can we make a new term for 1,1,1,2 in a 4 game set? please? I have no grand slams, but 5-6 of those. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Hellmouth
11-16-2005, 11:10 AM
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It depends on if they were 4 that you started in a row. Winning 1,4,6,and 8 is not a slam but 1,2,3,4 is. I also feel that 3,4,5,6 is a slam.

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3456 is a Tiger Slam (like tiger woods wining all four majors but not in the same year)f
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Damn it I can't believe someone thought of this before me. Must resolve to read all posts before posting.

Greg

tigerite
11-16-2005, 11:11 AM
No, a Tiger Slam is when I do a Grand Slam. I've only ever had one though..

fnord_too
11-16-2005, 11:15 AM
NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

Freudian
11-16-2005, 11:21 AM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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It's called "highly unlikely, bordering on impossible".

astarck
11-16-2005, 12:04 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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The Holy Grail.

11-16-2005, 12:13 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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The Holy Grail.

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Meh... if you get first 15% of the time, it happens about once in every 4 million sets of eight. I think raptor gets a few of those in a day.

durron597
11-16-2005, 12:16 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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It's called "highly unlikely, bordering on impossible".

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Isn't there a poker site that gives a million bucks for winning 7 in a row? (I am intentionally leaving out the site name).

astarck
11-16-2005, 12:17 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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The Holy Grail.

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I just thought of a new dilema (although extremely unlikely to occur) related to the OP's question.

Let's say you 10-12+ table. What do you call it if you get first 2-10 or some weird combo like above. If 2-6 isn't a Slam, then is 2-10 anything close to a Grail? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

11-16-2005, 12:20 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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The Holy Grail.

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I just thought of a new dilema (although extremely unlikely to occur) related to the OP's question.

Let's say you 10-12+ table. What do you call it if you get first 2-10 or some weird combo like above. If 2-6 isn't a Slam, then is 2-10 anything close to a Grail? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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No. If you get 2-10, you got a grand slam from 5,6,7,8 and you get to regret firing up that first SnG. If you 12-table, you can only get a Grail from 1-8.

Christ, you all must play horribly.

AA suited
11-16-2005, 02:34 PM
Not as excited about GrandSlams (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=singletable&Number=392037 5&Searchpage=1&Main=3920375&Words=slam+AA+suited&t opic=&Search=true#Post3920375) since 10-tabling

Manque
11-16-2005, 03:03 PM
Well I'm glad I read your post because I was about to write the same thing.

11-16-2005, 03:43 PM
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NO! If you 8 table you are no longer elligible (that has to be spelled incorectly) for the GS, only the whatever the hell it's called when you win 8 of 8.

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I'm in the same boat as this guy.

AA suited
11-16-2005, 11:09 PM
8 out of 8 = Holy Grail

10 out of 10 = The 10 Commandments