Play this like the "2 overcard hands" discussion in SSH?

[A_K]

While reviewing this hand, I was struck by the parallel to the "two overcard hands" discussion in SSH I think (small equity edge on flop, big edge if safe card comes on turn; wait for turn to raise). However, unlike the two overcard hands discussion, getting a little heart to fold here would be nice. Do .50/1 fish fold little one card flush draws often enough to make the flop bet +EV?

Unfortunately I don't have any specific applicable reads on the villans -- typical low-limit loose-passive fish.

Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

[MrWookie47]

This hand is perfect. While you can sometimes wait for the turn to raise, you should virtually never wait to the turn to bet.

[A_K]

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This hand is perfect. While you can sometimes wait for the turn to raise, you should virtually never wait to the turn to bet.

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DOH. I guess the bet/raise issue would be the other important difference between this hand and the two overcard hands discussion in SSH. /images/graemlins/blush.gif So let's assume that someone bet into hero here. Call and wait for the turn?

*grunch*

I play this the same way as you did. I don't think a river bet can help in any way here. Anyone who calls here has you beat. No one with any heart will fold now, not after already calling 2 bets before. And if no one does have a heart, then they will be folding to a bet here anyways.

I don't mind betting on the flop as it kept the table checking to the raiser and may have given you a free showdown.

[MrWookie47]

It really depends on a lot of things: the position of the bet, how many opponents have called, how many are to act behind you, etc. If you were closing the action if you called and there was a caller or two in between you and the bettor, I could see waiting.

[LoaferGee12]

Standard.

[2+2 wannabe]

nh

grunch

totally standard... check behind on the river and expect to lose

[RutgersKev]

Well played.