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punter11235
11-16-2005, 01:00 AM
My image is like in first post, making 65 with anything and overbetting with anything. Villain is 31/10 and he thinks that I am stupid.
Edit : the question is , whats your move after his allin

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CO ($185)
Hero ($1002)
SB ($877)
BB ($1470)
UTG ($985.75)
MP ($404.49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>, SB (poster) calls $60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($140) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $145</font>, SB calls $812 (All-In)

Btw, I am really interested in what you would do, assume you went on tilt and earn this image.

Best wishes

flawless_victory
11-16-2005, 01:02 AM
whats the question?

punter11235
11-16-2005, 01:04 AM
I dont know why converted write "poster" next to SB. He went allin and its my move. I can fold or call.

Best wishes

AllIn3High
11-16-2005, 01:04 AM
Hi punter, what hands are they expecting you to call with here? If they think you might call with hearts / a queen / tens here then easy call. In other words have you been backing up your tilting image with huge calls or is you image actually more that of someone who's playing extremely overaggro but is capable of folding?

&lt;If i'm talking out of my ass and the answer is simple feel free to flame me&gt;

punter11235
11-16-2005, 01:06 AM
I had tilting image but I didnt make stupid calls so far because I am not tilting in reality. I made some big bluffs and big bets with big hands but I didnt made any big calls so far. It makes it difficult I believe.

BobboFitos
11-16-2005, 01:07 AM
Maybe becuase ididn't read your first post yet, but...

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Villain is 31/10

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He's most definately not a maniac based on those stats. if so, I think I'm an uber maniac /images/graemlins/frown.gif

flawless_victory
11-16-2005, 01:11 AM
i wouldnt bet 145 on that flop w/ AJ if i wasnt calling that allin.

etizzle
11-16-2005, 01:14 AM
call quick, although the tone of this post means you called an d lost.

MTBlue
11-16-2005, 04:36 AM
I play this very aggressive overbet style frequently and after reading both of your posted hands. I think the general mistake you are making is playing dominated hands too aggressively. AJ and K9 both are in very bad shape if your oppponent wakes up with a solid hand and most opponents make the adjustment to tighten up against maniacs so you can expect the majority of your pots against solid handvalues if the villains are any good.

Hand one, I'm calling and not raising. This hand I would seriously consider folding unless the guy has shown down bad aces when calling your preflop raises.

lapoker17
11-16-2005, 04:40 AM
If you're the maniac, why is he pushing so hard here?

That's the question I'd be asking myself anyway.

Publos Nemesis
11-16-2005, 04:41 AM
what else did you want to have happen? get your money in behind by a little at worst....

vanHelsing
11-16-2005, 05:35 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Maybe becuase ididn't read your first post yet, but...

[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 31/10

[/ QUOTE ]

He's most definately not a maniac based on those stats. if so, I think I'm an uber maniac /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
I guess, punter is reffering to his own image...

vanHelsing
11-16-2005, 05:40 AM
To put me in the shoes of your opponent:
I wouldn't make moves, based on fold equity against a "stupid" maniac. The maniac might call with any piece of the board.
I'd rather push a made hand here, AQ, set or whatever is likely ahead.

SpaceAce
11-16-2005, 07:53 AM
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what else did you want to have happen? get your money in behind by a little at worst....

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, where do you get that from? What range of hands do you put the villain on that have Hero behind by "a little at worst"?

SpaceAce

punter11235
11-16-2005, 08:47 AM
[ QUOTE ]
If you're the maniac, why is he pushing so hard here?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I asked this question to myself. With good hand he would probably slowplay me.
I figured something strange yesterday, some people started to make moves agaisnt me which they normally dont. Maybe I tilted them by winning few pots with crap hand, I dont know.
I called with both hands and then stick the rest on the turn in first one. I was showed A10 in both cases and took both pots...

Thank you all for answers.

Best wishes