11: How did I play this flopped straight? [Archive]

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Ortho

11-15-2005, 05:38 PM

Should I bet bigger on the flop? I'd like some action on my straight. Push the turn? Or is it all reasonable?

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Button (t555)
SB (t810)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t610)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t1250)
CO (t775)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, 1 fold, MP3 calls t15, CO calls t15, Button calls t15, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t102.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (7 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t70, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls t70, CO calls t70, Button folds, SB calls t70.

Turn: (t382.50) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t250, MP3 calls t250, CO folds, SB folds.

River: (t882.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Hero Bets 250. MP3 Raises to 515.

durron597

11-15-2005, 05:41 PM

With the paired board I would probably check-call the river. No way am I folding though.

ilya

11-15-2005, 06:16 PM

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With the paired board I would probably check-call the river. No way am I folding though.

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Yeah I would either shove or check, I don't like the smaller bet.

The rest of the line looks good to me.

junkmail3

11-15-2005, 06:28 PM

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With the paired board I would probably check-call the river. No way am I folding though.

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Yeah I would either shove or check, I don't like the smaller bet.

The rest of the line looks good to me.

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You don't like the value bet on the river? If you can price villian in with a pair on 9s, why not get 250 more chips?

Checking, he'll surely check a 9 behind. (Maybe even Q).
Pushing, he'll fold most pairs.
betting 250, you'll probably get 250 chips at least 20% of the time (20% is completely made up)

If he has a full house, all of your chips will be in the middle by the end anyway, either checking/betting/pushing, so who cares?

ilya

11-15-2005, 06:35 PM

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With the paired board I would probably check-call the river. No way am I folding though.

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Yeah I would either shove or check, I don't like the smaller bet.

The rest of the line looks good to me.

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You don't like the value bet on the river? If you can price villian in with a pair on 9s, why not get 250 more chips?

Checking, he'll surely check a 9 behind. (Maybe even Q).
Pushing, he'll fold most pairs.
betting 250, you'll probably get 250 chips at least 20% of the time (20% is completely made up)

If he has a full house, all of your chips will be in the middle by the end anyway, either checking/betting/pushing, so who cares?

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It's not like he's always gonna fold a 9 to a push. Yes he may call a bit less often, but then again a push looks more like a busted draw bluff, whereas the smaller value bet looks like, well, a value bet with a strong hand. Also if he has a hand like QT he's gonna call a push but also just call the smaller bet.

Ortho

11-15-2005, 08:28 PM

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If he has a full house, all of your chips will be in the middle by the end anyway, either checking/betting/pushing, so who cares?

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I'm glad you said this, because it's what I was thinking when I played the hand. The little bet was just meant to be a weak-looking wheedling bet that would get him to put as much in as possible. I wasn't sure that my "I'm either going to win this hand or lose all my chips" line wasn't too reckless, and I do take on board what Ilya says here about him being able to save money with some hands I beat. The big issue for me was result-oriented wanting to make sure that it was okay to lose all my chips here. He's got 77.

11-15-2005, 08:32 PM

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It's not like he's always gonna fold a 9 to a push. Yes he may call a bit less often, but then again a push looks more like a busted draw bluff, whereas the smaller value bet looks like, well, a value bet with a strong hand. Also if he has a hand like QT he's gonna call a push but also just call the smaller bet.

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I like the value bet on the end, it may even be interpreted as a post-oak