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Ortho
11-15-2005, 05:34 PM
When the Jack pairs on the turn, I don't like my hand much anymore, but I'm getting like 3:1. Should I just let it go?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Hero (t800)
MP3 (t810)
CO (t810)
Button (t730)
SB (t785)
BB (t785)
UTG (t1140)
UTG+1 (t805)
UTG+2 (t805)
MP1 (t530)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls t75, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t75.

Flop: (t307.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG calls t250, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t807.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

UTG puts hero all in for 460.
Bigwig
11-15-2005, 05:35 PM
I call pretty quickly here.
ZeroPointMachine
11-15-2005, 05:44 PM
IMO you will see 99, TT and spade overcards often enough to make this call correct.
ilya
11-15-2005, 06:19 PM
I would call, I doubt he has a Jack even half the time here.
junkmail3
11-15-2005, 06:25 PM
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I would call, I doubt he has a Jack even half the time here.

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This is correct. If he had a jack, he would likely try to get fancy since you've been aggressive.
ilya
11-15-2005, 06:39 PM
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I would call, I doubt he has a Jack even half the time here.

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This is correct. If he had a jack, he would likely try to get fancy since you've been aggressive.

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Not only that, but he would often have bet/check-raised the flop.
Ortho
11-15-2005, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the replies. He did indeed have J9 if anyone cares, but I thought the call was good and wanted to see what others thought.
11-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Does anyone check/raise all-in on the flop here?
Ortho
11-15-2005, 08:29 PM
I think that at the 11s this flop will get checked through way too often, especially since I was the preflop raiser, so I prefer to just bet.
sng-sam
11-15-2005, 08:34 PM
I've spend a considerable time at the 11s lately and although it is easy to put the villan on AJ or KJ or even QJ based on preflop action, I don't think he is going to be quite so passive on the flop or so aggressive when he makes his set. I think this is a busted flush draw.

Straight FLushes,

SAM

PS what did villan have anyway?
Ortho
11-15-2005, 08:36 PM
J9.
sng-sam
11-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Just to give you an idea I made a "very" loose call on a QQ3 board when I checked my AK and villan went all in. I don't really believe it is long term good to call all in with heavy action and a paired board but in this case I was quite confident that a 3rd Queen would have led to a check raise not a all in on the flop.

Straight Flushes,

SAM