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JihadOnTheRiver
11-15-2005, 04:26 PM
I have three with legitimate reasons. What are yours?

1. Meridian, MS (what up Big Steve?). I spent 2 solid years in flight school here. Being a California-bred college educated person in this city is painful. I had a lot of good friends surrounding me, but when we couldn't get out of town for the weekend and ended up drinking in town, it was painful. Driving from the somewhat affluent area on the outside of town where I lived, into the center of the town was basically hilariously depressing.

2. Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.

3. Los Angeles, CA. Yes, I grew up in Cali, but I hate LA. I hate their sports teams, especially their fan base. Pretty much everything that Tool said in AEnima is dead on for me. That city would make a great lake.

You?

-Jihad

kyro
11-15-2005, 04:29 PM
My gf lived outside of Philly and we went there several times. I rather liked it, but the people for the most part are incredibly obnoxious.

I've never spent any significant time there but I hear Worcester, MA is a nice place...

MonkeeMan
11-15-2005, 04:33 PM
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I have three with legitimate reasons. What are yours?

1. Meridian, MS (what up Big Steve?). I spent 2 solid years in flight school here. Being a California-bred college educated person in this city is painful. I had a lot of good friends surrounding me, but when we couldn't get out of town for the weekend and ended up drinking in town, it was painful. Driving from the somewhat affluent area on the outside of town where I lived, into the center of the town was basically hilariously depressing.

2. Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.

3. Los Angeles, CA. Yes, I grew up in Cali, but I hate LA. I hate their sports teams, especially their fan base. Pretty much everything that Tool said in AEnima is dead on for me. That city would make a great lake.

You?

-Jihad

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Yea, so drag yer candy ass back to tofu land and enjoy a fruit salad.

xadrez
11-15-2005, 04:39 PM
Philly cant be on my list because I get sexually excited over cheesesteaks and cheese fries, so Im going to vote

1)New Haven, CT
2)Springfield, MA
3)Newark, NJ

EDIT: Hartford, CT is probably tied for 1st. HUGE oversight.

Blarg
11-15-2005, 04:40 PM
Bakersfield. So empty and devoid in life the place feels like it has an infused sense of evil. If deadness and mindless conformity could be evil, then Bakersfield will give you a feeling of absolute evil. "gaze blank and pitiless as the sun," from the Yeats poem The Second Coming, springs to mind. The town has that kind of gaze. I'm sure it is the center of some Satanic cult.

I agree on L.A. The place is a desert, but devoid of the natural beauty even a desert has. Very little foliage anywhere, and most of that brown. A lifeless holding pan for hot smog. Everything man-made and most of it dirty and in bad repair. Unutterably smug people with less to be smug about than could be imagined, mixed with a lot of misery and poverty. Fake boobs everywhere and a society and culture that seems built around them.

11-15-2005, 04:44 PM
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1)New Haven, CT
2)Springfield, MA
3)Newark, NJ

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I grew up in Springfield and get back there about once a year to visit the rents. I couldn't wait to go to school to get out of there and haven't seen anything to draw me back. What am I missing?

TheMainEvent
11-15-2005, 04:45 PM
I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-15-2005, 04:45 PM
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1)New Haven, CT
2)Springfield, MA
3)Newark, NJ

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I grew up in Springfield and get back there about once a year to visit the rents. I couldn't wait to go to school to get out of there and haven't seen anything to draw me back. What am I missing?

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Nothing. Its a LEAST favorite city list.

11-15-2005, 04:47 PM
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1)New Haven, CT
2)Springfield, MA
3)Newark, NJ

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I grew up in Springfield and get back there about once a year to visit the rents. I couldn't wait to go to school to get out of there and haven't seen anything to draw me back. What am I missing?

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Nothing. Its a LEAST favorite city list.

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Doh! I will slink away now...

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 04:47 PM
Ann Arbor, look how [censored] ugly...

http://www.michiganfansite.com/images/stadium2.gif

thatpfunk
11-15-2005, 04:47 PM
texas

11-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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texas

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It's city, not least favorite country.

xadrez
11-15-2005, 04:49 PM
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1)New Haven, CT
2)Springfield, MA
3)Newark, NJ

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I grew up in Springfield and get back there about once a year to visit the rents. I couldn't wait to go to school to get out of there and haven't seen anything to draw me back. What am I missing?

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Before you realized this was a least favorite list, you must of thought i was one demented [censored].

You know you love to chill at the Hippodrome

imported_The Vibesman
11-15-2005, 04:51 PM
Lawrence, MA. For personal reasons. Waltham, MA would be a close second.

tdarko
11-15-2005, 04:52 PM
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texas

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obviously you are from the city of california.

11-15-2005, 04:53 PM
1. Memphis, Tennessee (In it's "defense", I didn't really spend much time here, thank God). Dirtiest "city" you've ever seen. Fat trashy people. Women who don't own make-up at all. Fast-food culture. West Memphis, Ark is supposed to be one of the most crime-infested per capita cities in the nation. Driving through this city in the winter makes you want to kill yourself.

2. San Antonio, Texas full of a bunch of Mexican-American's who claim to and try to be White (quoted from a Mexican buddy of mine). I agree. Also, there isn't much culture there. It's just a "large conglomeration of people", not a "city". Drop by to see the Alamo and the Riverwalk, and get the F out. The people are vere rude, too. Especially the drivers along I-10. Been there twice, don't ever want to go back. Not missing a damn thing.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 04:53 PM
*duck*

PokerGoblin
11-15-2005, 04:55 PM
Detroit for sure.

MarkSummers
11-15-2005, 04:57 PM
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I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

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To a certain extent, you have also described every city in NY along I-90, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Schanectady.

midas
11-15-2005, 04:57 PM
New Haven has the best pizza in the U.S. and must be moved up the list because of this fact.

1. Gary, Indiana
2. Bakersfield, CA
3. Any city in Arkansas, North or South Dakota

xadrez
11-15-2005, 04:59 PM
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To a certain extent, you have also described every city in NY along I-90, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Schanectady.

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This is very true. They should sell Prozac at the rest stops on I-90.

PokerGoblin
11-15-2005, 04:59 PM
Oh yea, Ohio sucks too.

Especially Columbus and Toledo.

Go Blue

Benal
11-15-2005, 05:00 PM
Pretty much all of them except for Vegas and San Fran.

xadrez
11-15-2005, 05:01 PM
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New Haven has the best pizza in the U.S. and must be moved up the list because of this fact.

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OK Ive heard this before, and Ive been to New Haven many times, and I have never had a memorable pizza there. Perhaps I havent been to the right pizza joints. Where should I go next time Im there?

I did see a Pizza guy get knocked off his bike then robbed there, so maybe your theory has some merit.

jba
11-15-2005, 05:01 PM
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I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

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To a certain extent, you have also described every city in NY along I-90, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Schanectady.

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I opened this thread in order to contribute the lovely city of Rochester.

daryn
11-15-2005, 05:03 PM
LA

NYC

SD

tdarko
11-15-2005, 05:04 PM
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OK Ive heard this before, and Ive been to New Haven many times, and I have never had a memorable pizza there. Perhaps I havent been to the right pizza joints. Where should I go next time Im there?

I did see a Pizza guy get knocked off his bike then robbed there, so maybe your theory has some merit.

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i lived there off and on for the last few years and i don't eat pizza ever but everyone raved about it.

new haven does suck. it's one of my least favorite places too.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 05:05 PM
any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

tdarko
11-15-2005, 05:07 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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i couldn't disagree more.

tonypaladino
11-15-2005, 05:07 PM
Schenectady, NY

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 05:09 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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i couldn't disagree more.

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por que?

bwana devil
11-15-2005, 05:10 PM
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San Antonio, Texas full of a bunch of Mexican-American's who claim to and try to be White (quoted from a Mexican buddy of mine). I agree. Also, there isn't much culture there. It's just a "large conglomeration of people", not a "city". Drop by to see the Alamo and the Riverwalk, and get the F out. The people are vere rude, too. Especially the drivers along I-10. Been there twice, don't ever want to go back. Not missing a damn thing.

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maybe you should spend some time in a city before you make snap judgments about it. how long were your two trips? san antonio is a pretty decent city. dont know why you say SA is just a "large conglomerate of people." there's plenty of culture.

and the hispanics seem pretty tex-mex to me. where are you from?

11-15-2005, 05:10 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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LOL. Do you know how -EV this would be for a city of 750K people?

DrSavage
11-15-2005, 05:10 PM
Atlantic City and it's not close.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 05:11 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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LOL. Do you know how -EV this would be for a city of 750K people?

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ok, maybe the underground part was out of line.

EDIT-but just wait about 75 years, and we'll see about how -EV it is then...

Isura
11-15-2005, 05:11 PM
Detroit.

tdarko
11-15-2005, 05:12 PM
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por que?

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there are plenty of cities in this country that fit your criteria that do not have an underground transit system and most of them i find easier and more pleasant to get around than NYC, though i don't think NYC's system is bad.

your comment is eliminating some really great cities in our country.

moondogg
11-15-2005, 05:15 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.

That being said, Go Eagles!


Oh, and L.A. blows horse dong as well. Probably the only city I hate more than Philly.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 05:15 PM
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por que?

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there are plenty of cities in this country that fit your criteria that do not have an underground transit system and most of them i find easier and more pleasant to get around than NYC, though i don't think NYC's system is bad.

your comment is eliminating some really great cities in our country.

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ok, again, let's say i took out the word 'underground'...

JordanIB
11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
Will you people stop with the Springfield, Waltham, Schenectady, Utica stuff....these places aren't "cities."

It's as if I were to list Roslyn or Great Neck or something.

11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
El Paso / Las Cruces. The only way I can tell the difference is that El Paso is closer to Juarez.

Do these qualify as cities?

ScottieK

Georgia Avenue
11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
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<font color="green">LA

NYC

(I liked San Diego somewhat so I'll go with tdarko:) Texas</font>

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MrWookie47
11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
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I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

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To a certain extent, you have also described every city in NY along I-90, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Schanectady.

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I opened this thread in order to contribute the lovely city of Rochester.

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I moved out to Rochester a year ago. It's far from great, but it ain't all that bad. There are a couple of rough neighborhoods, but they don't extend all that far. Most of the places I go are fairly safe to walk around at night. The winters haven't been half as bad as Buffalo. Buffalo has two lakes dumping snow on them. Rochester only has one.

I'd like to nominate Pittsburgh, PA. I was there two weekends ago. Every place I went looked like a crime infested dump. On top of that, the roads in that place are a civil engineering nightmare. Ugh. You can't even do simple things like get off the freeway and get right back on. You end up horribly lost going in the wrong direction over some bridge you don't want to be on. Add to that that some of their "on ramps" are nothing more than a stop sign with a right turn that puts you immediately into 60 MPH traffic. Yuck.

11-15-2005, 05:18 PM
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Detroit for sure.

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Put me down too for Detroit. I had a 3 week training course, and the area was so bad that our company housed all new employees in a hotel about 40 minutes away from the city. Explanation was that previous groups either got into trouble (i.e. victims of crime) or just complained in general about their surroundings.

Commuting daily on the freeway was horribly depressing (8 mile road is essentially the 8 mile road in the movie). The only thing more depressing - visiting one of their casinos at night.. Picture being in a Vegas casino, but replace the happy drunks with angry drunks and the carefree Vegas gamblers with depressed gamblers risking their paychecks. That's all I remember about Detroit.

On the other hand, Michigan State girls are cool /images/graemlins/smile.gif

silkyslim
11-15-2005, 05:19 PM
Peoria, IL

11-15-2005, 05:20 PM
Any city in the south.

tdarko
11-15-2005, 05:21 PM
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ok, again, let's say i took out the word 'underground'...

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so any transit system works then? like buses? i guess i don't understand b/c every city has some sort of transit system. help me /images/graemlins/confused.gif

daryn
11-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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Will you people stop with the Springfield, Waltham, Schenectady, Utica stuff....these places aren't "cities."

It's as if I were to list Roslyn or Great Neck or something.

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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

imported_The Vibesman
11-15-2005, 05:24 PM
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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

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Well, whatever you wanna call it, Waltham's a hellhole.

Peter666
11-15-2005, 05:24 PM
Atlanta. It destroyed its heritage.

Los Feliz Slim
11-15-2005, 05:29 PM
1. Kansas City, MO
2. Los Angeles, CA
3. Louisville, KY

Caveats: I live in LA and love to hate it. But I do hate it. Also, Louisville is good for one week out of the year. Kansas City just blows.

And I agree, stop posting little podunk places like cities in western MA and upstate New York or the middle of the desert. They don't count.

RunDownHouse
11-15-2005, 05:30 PM
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Any city in the south.

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You stay on your side of the Mason-Dixon, I'll stay on mine, and I won't ever complain.

11-15-2005, 05:33 PM
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Any city in the south.

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You stay on your side of the Mason-Dixon, I'll stay on mine, and I won't ever complain.

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I kinda like Nashville actually. It gets an exemption.

daryn
11-15-2005, 05:35 PM
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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

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Well, whatever you wanna call it, Waltham's a hellhole.

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what's wrong with it? i fail to see how it's any different than any other suburb surrounding it. i have never lived there or anything, so i don't know.. let's hear it

calmasahinducow
11-15-2005, 05:38 PM
Another vote for Buffalo, although it's so depressing I kind of like it.

phixxx
11-15-2005, 05:38 PM
All of them?

Los Feliz Slim
11-15-2005, 05:40 PM
I've spent some time in Waltham. While it wouldn't be my first choice (or 50th) of a place to live, singling a city that close to Worcester out is absurd. Worcester sucks donkey dick, no other place in MA is close in terms of crappiness IMO. Waltham is dingy, but it's not as bad as Worcester. There are other sucky places of similar size that are worse, like Fall River, for instance.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 05:42 PM
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ok, again, let's say i took out the word 'underground'...

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so any transit system works then? like buses? i guess i don't understand b/c every city has some sort of transit system. help me /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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I mean some sort of rail system. Buses suck, because they slow traffic even more. I couldn't imagine living in a big city without some sort of rail/subway. These systems should help city growth and culture as well, encouraging a better nightlife, attractions staying open later, an urban lifestyle, etc.

xadrez
11-15-2005, 05:45 PM
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And I agree, stop posting little podunk places like cities in western MA and upstate New York or the middle of the desert. They don't count.

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Sorry to be a nit but, but

Springfield, MA pop. 152,157
Rochester, NY pop. 215,093
Hartford, CT pop. 124,387
Worcester pop. 175,706

Like it or not, these are technically cities.

imported_anacardo
11-15-2005, 05:47 PM
I went to Louisville for a wedding this summer and found it to be a beautiful, charming city. My only beef is with the roads and traffic patterns in the older parts of town, which are a god-damned nightmare; I left an hour earlier than I normally would and still barely managed to sprint into the chapel on time. WTF is it with the old French towns and their labyrinth of one-way streets?

Anyway, good town. Too bad it will be forever associated in my memory with being lightly bummed out.

Los Feliz Slim
11-15-2005, 05:50 PM
I'm surprised Springfield and Worcester are that close. Rochester counts for sure, I was referring to Utica.

Deamon2
11-15-2005, 05:50 PM
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My gf lived outside of Philly and we went there several times. I rather liked it, but the people for the most part are incredibly obnoxious.

I've never spent any significant time there but I hear Worcester, MA is a nice place...

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I live near worcester and it isn't that bad. not much to do there, and its a little dangerous, but its no Lowell. That's one city to stay away from

11-15-2005, 05:53 PM
What's wrong with Kansas City? Great barbecue at least.

Although I will say the worst ballpark I've ever been to is Kauffman Stadium, home of the Royals. Besides the fountains, the place was filthy and leaky, and they ran out of hot dogs before the third inning. How the hell does that happen? And all they had to drink was bad beer. Worst part was, it took me almost half an hour to get anything else.

If you really want middle of the desert, try Espanola, NM.

I forgot to mention Lubbock, TX.

For a big city I can't stand, how about Salt Lake City. Yes.

ScottieK

xadrez
11-15-2005, 05:56 PM
Utica for sure shouldnt count as a city. Neither should Schenectady, which is a shame cause they could definately make multiple "Worst of" lists...

Dominic
11-15-2005, 05:57 PM
Boston. Hate the people, hate the accent, hate the weather, hate how they all think they're in a world-class city when they're really just in a quaint little burg.

Speaking of burgs...

Pittsburgh. Bleh

Cleveland. Double bleh.

TheWorstPlayer
11-15-2005, 05:57 PM
Rocky Mount, NC. No need for explanation for anyone who has been there.

RunDownHouse
11-15-2005, 05:59 PM
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What's wrong with Kansas City? Great barbecue at least.

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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city. Its got a lot of sprawl, and not much in the way of culture. I'm partial because a very good friend lives there, and the food is good, but I wouldn't argue with those that think its a pretty bad city.

CheckRaise
11-15-2005, 05:59 PM
Grand Forks, North Dakota

11-15-2005, 06:01 PM
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San Antonio, Texas full of a bunch of Mexican-American's who claim to and try to be White (quoted from a Mexican buddy of mine). I agree. Also, there isn't much culture there. It's just a "large conglomeration of people", not a "city". Drop by to see the Alamo and the Riverwalk, and get the F out. The people are vere rude, too. Especially the drivers along I-10. Been there twice, don't ever want to go back. Not missing a damn thing.

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maybe you should spend some time in a city before you make snap judgments about it. how long were your two trips? san antonio is a pretty decent city. dont know why you say SA is just a "large conglomerate of people." there's plenty of culture.

and the hispanics seem pretty tex-mex to me. where are you from?

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I live in Houston. I spend a few days in San Antonio with the family about 8 years ago and didn't really care for it. Also, I was in the area when I went Toobin' down the Guadalupe in New Braunfels, TX and stopped by SA afterwards and again, ran into some really rude people, mostly on the highways. This says a lot seeing as I spend over 1 hour each day on the roads of Houston.

Homer
11-15-2005, 06:02 PM
New York, and it's not close.

jba
11-15-2005, 06:02 PM
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For a big city I can't stand, how about Salt Lake City. Yes.

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There is no city in the world with nearly as much consistent, quality powder within an hour of an international airport. SLC sucks I will give you that, but the skiing alone should keep it off the list.

and someone from albuquerque probably shouldn't be posting in this thread :-P

daryn
11-15-2005, 06:02 PM
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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

Gary Stevenson
11-15-2005, 06:03 PM
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New Haven has the best pizza in the U.S. and must be moved up the list because of this fact.

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OK Ive heard this before, and Ive been to New Haven many times, and I have never had a memorable pizza there. Perhaps I havent been to the right pizza joints. Where should I go next time Im there?

I did see a Pizza guy get knocked off his bike then robbed there, so maybe your theory has some merit.

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go to modern, sally's or pepe's, any of the 3 will get you hooked on new haven pizza

ZZzzZZzz

Homer
11-15-2005, 06:03 PM
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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.

pokerdirty
11-15-2005, 06:15 PM
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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.

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NY&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;LA

*note, each &gt; = 10x better than

Benal
11-15-2005, 06:15 PM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

tripp0807
11-15-2005, 06:18 PM
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Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.


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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.


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F you.

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Philadelphia.

11-15-2005, 06:20 PM
Salt Lake city, Utah.

(besides the skiing)

its a morman cult city where everything closes at 1:00 on weekends. the whole town is obsessively clean like a hospital.

the streets are not named but numbered (street2300)

its a pure grid.

mormons will take you by the arm to try to drag you to their church. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Aloysius
11-15-2005, 06:24 PM
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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.

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NY&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;LA

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Lived in both (Manhattan 4 years, LA about 3 years now). I'd have to agree. Though I would take off some of the "&gt;" due to NYC possibly getting blown up by terrorists, unlikely event in LA.

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moondogg
11-15-2005, 06:38 PM
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Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.


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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.


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F you.

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Philadelphia.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about Philly's perpetual, justly-deserved, yet consistently-denied inferiority complex.

Just about every mayor, from Wilson Goode to John Street, has run a goddamned clinic on how to [censored] up a city.

MarkSummers
11-15-2005, 06:42 PM
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I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

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Yeah for some reason, I wouldn't picture that city being very happy after that Super Bowl, not to mention the Music City Miricle and the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals. I feel so bad for this city which is why I like it.

miajag81
11-15-2005, 06:48 PM
I don't have three, but I'll say Philly is by far my least favorite city, for reasons others have mentioned.

I live in Baltimore, and I love it here, but I see why a lot of people think it sucks.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-15-2005, 06:54 PM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
Regarding Salt Lake. Well, I don't ski. But I do like to drink and stay out late. My friend just got back from there...said it was the most boring place on earth.

Talking smack about ABQ, huh? If you don’t know, you don’t know. Some highlights.

No hurricanes. No earthquakes. No blizzards. No floods. No heat waves. No humidity. An occasional forest fire in close proximity, but that's about it. 300-330 days of sun out of the year, and we have four seasons. Not too hot, not too cold. We have about 500,000 or so people here, and there’s only so much room to sprawl. Not too big, not too small.

Mountains in my backyard. Most people are friendly.

Best New Mexican and Mexican food you’ll ever eat in the states. Real green and red chile. Best margaritas, too. Lots of good restaurants with all cuisines.

Only city in America with a baseball team whose name came from a Simpsons episode.

Home of the Pit. Home of the Balloon Fiesta.

There are four casinos with poker rooms that I can get to in less than half an hour, and three have amphitheatres. Journal Pavilion also brings in good shows, if you don’t mind waiting two hours to leave the parking lot.

Streets are easy to figure out. Airport is very easy to use. Cost of living is cheap.

Downtown is being revitalized and cleaned up. There are plans for a light rail system in the near future. Real estate is going crazy. Lots of new commercial development going on.

A day’s drive from Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, Dallas, Mexico, and yes, Salt Lake City.

So what if we’ve got a lot of drunk drivers, a piddly river, and no pro sports? Just because our mayor banned the TV show COPS from ever filming here again doesn’t mean we’re all bad. I wear it like a badge of honor.

And we did find the Runaway Bride. That was fun.

I've been to a lot of cities, and I'd rather live here than in most of them. Most of my friends that move here agree. So if you're in town, look me up. We'll go to Sadie's or Los Cuates and get some 'ritas and enchiladas. Nothing like it.

ScottieK

Benal
11-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

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Typical

rustyboy
11-15-2005, 07:14 PM
1. Detroit
2. Detroit
3. Detroit

NutzyClutz
11-15-2005, 07:31 PM
Least favorites
1. Lynn MA
2. Orlando FL
3. Any city that ban's outsiders from their public shoreline.

(and I enjoy Newark NJ, and Detroit,MI

daryn
11-15-2005, 07:34 PM
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Least favorites
1. Lynn MA
2. Orlando FL
3. Any city that ban's outsiders from their public shoreline.

(and I enjoy Newark NJ, and Detroit,MI

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i woudn't think you'd want to be anywhere near the public shoreline of lynn, mass.

Autocratic
11-15-2005, 07:38 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.

That being said, Go Eagles!


Oh, and L.A. blows horse dong as well. Probably the only city I hate more than Philly.

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If you think cheesesteaks in the suburbs are just as good, you are [censored] crazy. CRAZY. That said, Philly bores me to no end.

MyTurn2Raise
11-15-2005, 07:43 PM
Man...too many good ones

1. Peoria, IL
2. Gary, IN
3. Detroit, MI
4. East St. Louis, IL
5. Philadelphia, PA

(I'm obviously Midwest based)

BeerMoney
11-15-2005, 07:50 PM
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I buy my porn in lowell.

Also, to the guy who said lawrence, explain to those ooter's not familiar with the merrimack valley why this place sucks so much.

d10
11-15-2005, 07:54 PM
To everyone who listed cities with &gt;500,000 people, I hate you all.

Schneids
11-15-2005, 07:57 PM
Not at all shocking to see that not one person has had anything bad to say about Minnesota cities.

I hate LA.

BeerMoney
11-15-2005, 08:01 PM
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Boston. Hate the people, hate the accent, hate the weather, hate how they all think they're in a world-class city when they're really just in a quaint little burg.


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Special Ops,

You know why you can't handle Boston????? Because the people are upfront and honest, something you don't seem to have a grasp of, despite being over thirty years old. Go back to training for the Special Ops in the Florida Cub Scouts, OK?

Ulysses
11-15-2005, 08:06 PM
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Not at all shocking to see that not one person has had anything bad to say about Minnesota cities.

I hate LA.

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Who the F would ever go to Minnesota?

daryn
11-15-2005, 08:07 PM
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Not at all shocking to see that not one person has had anything bad to say about Minnesota cities.

I hate LA.

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clearly because nobody has ever been there

Ulysses
11-15-2005, 08:07 PM
Of the cities I've spent any significant time in, St. Louis sucked the most.

I passed through Detroit once and it looked pretty miserable.

daveymck
11-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Havent been to many but on my trip

Pheonix, but I arrived a downtown so maybe not the best place to start there, stayed overnight then got the hell out.

LA mainly cos I got hopelessly lost, ended up from the airport in some dodgy neighbourhood and then go even more lost and ended up at Santa Monica.

At the time Vegas the tackiest place ever but that was before I learned to gamble or play tiddlewinks and got there when the computer convention was on so all the hotels were fully booked and wouldnt take my cheap room vouchers.

Next time over there need to plan more not just get in a car and drive.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-15-2005, 08:10 PM
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Not at all shocking to see that not one person has had anything bad to say about Minnesota cities.

I hate LA.

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Who the F would ever go to Minnesota?

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Canadiens???

TheGame1020
11-15-2005, 08:13 PM
No one said Washington, DC? Come on people, this place is more dangerous than Iraq.

Mike Cuneo
11-15-2005, 08:16 PM
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I'd like to nominate Pittsburgh, PA. I was there two weekends ago. Every place I went looked like a crime infested dump. On top of that, the roads in that place are a civil engineering nightmare. Ugh. You can't even do simple things like get off the freeway and get right back on. You end up horribly lost going in the wrong direction over some bridge you don't want to be on. Add to that that some of their "on ramps" are nothing more than a stop sign with a right turn that puts you immediately into 60 MPH traffic. Yuck.

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Stay out of our city then you douche.

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11-15-2005, 08:18 PM
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Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.


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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.


[/ QUOTE ]

F you.

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Philadelphia.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about Philly's perpetual, justly-deserved, yet consistently-denied inferiority complex.

Just about every mayor, from Wilson Goode to John Street, has run a goddamned clinic on how to [censored] up a city.

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"Just about every mayor, from Wilson Goode to John Street..."

Wow. Great sample size you got there. Total of um, three.

You're just mad because we put Rendell in the Governor's spot.

raisins
11-15-2005, 08:42 PM
I've never been to Bakersfield. A friend who did some time in California said the people there are real proud of the neighboring prison. He also commented that Oildale (right next to Bakersfield) was one of the toughest places he knows of and a real racist hotbed to boot.

On the positive side, I've heard from a couple of different sources, that there is a gun shop that is just legendary. I don't know the name of the shop it's just some outlaw biker selling a pretty large assortment out of his garage. Of course that's hardly a defense of Bakersfield, I'm just mentioning it because I'm curious if you've been there or know of it.

raisins

Homer
11-15-2005, 08:46 PM
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any city over 750k people without an underground mass transit system.

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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.

That being said, Go Eagles!


Oh, and L.A. blows horse dong as well. Probably the only city I hate more than Philly.

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If you think cheesesteaks in the suburbs are just as good, you are [censored] crazy. CRAZY. That said, Philly bores me to no end.

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He's right...about the cheesesteaks, that is.

Los Feliz Slim
11-15-2005, 08:50 PM
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Bakersfield. I'm sure it is the center of some Satanic cult.

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Are you familiar with The Lords of Bakersfield? (http://ww2.bakersfield.com/2003/lords/) Sounds like you will enjoy this if you don't already know about it.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-15-2005, 08:59 PM
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Bakersfield. I'm sure it is the center of some Satanic cult.

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Are you familiar with The Lords of Bakersfield? (http://ww2.bakersfield.com/2003/lords/) Sounds like you will enjoy this if you don't already know about it.

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LOL. Nothing like a little gay-power-murder-conspiracy-theory to put an already putrid city on the map.

masse75
11-15-2005, 09:18 PM
I'm gonna say Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Chesapeake/Newport News/Hampton/Portsmouth.

First, a huge metropolitan area but they can't get their 'identity' straight. Call us the "Tidewater" region!

I'd rather call you retarded.

They're also way too high on themselves. You are not a "resort area." If I want to go to a crappy redneck beach to vacation, I'll go to Myrtle Beach, SC. At least it's close to South of the Border.

Guy Incognito
11-15-2005, 10:00 PM
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No hurricanes. No earthquakes. No blizzards. No floods. No heat waves. No humidity. An occasional forest fire in close proximity, but that's about it. 300-330 days of sun out of the year, and we have four seasons. Not too hot, not too cold. We have about 500,000 or so people here, and there’s only so much room to sprawl. Not too big, not too small.

Mountains in my backyard. Most people are friendly.

Best New Mexican and Mexican food you’ll ever eat in the states. Real green and red chile. Best margaritas, too. Lots of good restaurants with all cuisines.

Only city in America with a baseball team whose name came from a Simpsons episode.

Home of the Pit. Home of the Balloon Fiesta.

There are four casinos with poker rooms that I can get to in less than half an hour, and three have amphitheatres. Journal Pavilion also brings in good shows, if you don’t mind waiting two hours to leave the parking lot.

Streets are easy to figure out. Airport is very easy to use. Cost of living is cheap.

Downtown is being revitalized and cleaned up. There are plans for a light rail system in the near future. Real estate is going crazy. Lots of new commercial development going on.

A day’s drive from Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, Dallas, Mexico, and yes, Salt Lake City.

So what if we’ve got a lot of drunk drivers, a piddly river, and no pro sports? Just because our mayor banned the TV show COPS from ever filming here again doesn’t mean we’re all bad. I wear it like a badge of honor.

And we did find the Runaway Bride. That was fun.

I've been to a lot of cities, and I'd rather live here than in most of them. Most of my friends that move here agree. So if you're in town, look me up. We'll go to Sadie's or Los Cuates and get some 'ritas and enchiladas. Nothing like it.

ScottieK

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You make a good case. Seriously, I may be looking to move out west in a few years, sounds a lot like what I'm looking for. I guess I assumed that it was one of those cities where English speakers are in the minority.

And Boston is my least favorite.

EMcWilliams
11-15-2005, 10:12 PM
SLC is amazing. Probably my favorite city.

bennyk
11-15-2005, 10:16 PM
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the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.

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thaaaaank you. no one ever knows what I'm talking about when I complain about the ugly Philadelphia accent.

bk

ISF
11-15-2005, 11:01 PM
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New York, and it's not close.



have you been to LA?



No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.



NY&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;LA

*note, each &gt; = 10x better than

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I seriously dont understand this.
I have lived in both and I dont like a single thing about this city over la.
The winter sucks. The women and people in general are ugly and less friendly. You are farther away from any decent ski resorts/outdoor activities like surfing. It is way more expensive, and is filthy. And the communist pols suck an extra 5% or so out of your paycheck.

housenuts
11-15-2005, 11:23 PM
let's see what thatpfunk's answer is:

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$texas

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texas with a dollar sign. simply stunning. i'm speechless.

James Boston
11-15-2005, 11:24 PM
Have you lived anywhere with a pop. &lt; 1 million?

BigBaitsim (milo)
11-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Dillon, SC, Home of "South of the Border." This place is one disgusting [censored] of a no-point tourist trap, preceded by several hundred miles of "Pedro" signs in neon colors, urging kids to "Keep Yelling, They'll Stop."

11-15-2005, 11:36 PM
1. Ames, Iowa
2. Ann Arbor, Michigan

imported_CaseClosed326
11-15-2005, 11:37 PM
ugh Peoria sucks. My girlfriend went to Bradley for a year, visiting sucked.

MonkeeMan
11-15-2005, 11:50 PM
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No one said Washington, DC? Come on people, this place is more dangerous than Iraq.

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So get a flak jacket you pansy.

DC has the best architecture, museums and monuments in the country.

Matt Flynn
11-15-2005, 11:51 PM
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Rocky Mount, NC. No need for explanation for anyone who has been there.

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If it were bigger, it might rival Bakersfield.

VeryTnA
11-16-2005, 12:01 AM
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2. San Antonio, Texas full of a bunch of Mexican-American's who claim to and try to be White (quoted from a Mexican buddy of mine). I agree. Also, there isn't much culture there. It's just a "large conglomeration of people", not a "city". Drop by to see the Alamo and the Riverwalk, and get the F out. The people are vere rude, too. Especially the drivers along I-10. Been there twice, don't ever want to go back. Not missing a damn thing.

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I was born and raised in San Antonio.
I am sorry to say you are correct. They built a football staduim when they didn't have a team. Now that New Orleans is hurting they are trying to steal their team.

Its a one horse town, but their horse is a donkey.

I am so glad to have escaped.

Matt Flynn
11-16-2005, 12:10 AM
There are so many small-minded places to choose from. The winner is:

Bakersfield, CA.

But I would live there over anywhere in New York State. Anyone who chose L.A. is a fool. Weather alone takes it out of contention even if it has some select categories of high suck(le), assuming you didn't have to live in a ghetto.

bugstud
11-16-2005, 12:25 AM
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ugh Peoria sucks. My girlfriend went to Bradley for a year, visiting sucked.

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that's fine, but's it's no east saint louis or gary.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-16-2005, 12:47 AM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

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Typical

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Our little brother to the north has his penis in a knot, and to make up for his country-envy he's throwing out grossly generic weak insults at a country that he will never hold a match to. THAT, is typical.

11-16-2005, 12:47 AM
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Who the F would ever go to Minnesota?

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Canadiens???

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Nah, not us either.

Most hated:
1) Seattle
2a) Bakersfield
2b) Fresno

Dominic
11-16-2005, 12:48 AM
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Boston. Hate the people, hate the accent, hate the weather, hate how they all think they're in a world-class city when they're really just in a quaint little burg.


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Special Ops,

You know why you can't handle Boston????? Because the people are upfront and honest, something you don't seem to have a grasp of, despite being over thirty years old. Go back to training for the Special Ops in the Florida Cub Scouts, OK?

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Um, ok.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-16-2005, 12:51 AM
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Boston. Hate the people, hate the accent, hate the weather, hate how they all think they're in a world-class city when they're really just in a quaint little burg.


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Special Ops,

You know why you can't handle Boston????? Because the people are upfront and honest, something you don't seem to have a grasp of, despite being over thirty years old. Go back to training for the Special Ops in the Florida Cub Scouts, OK?

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Um, ok.

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No hijacking boys. Start a Dr. Dom sucks thread if you must, then enjoy your newly [censored] life.

antidan444
11-16-2005, 01:00 AM
Just driving through Hartford, Conn., was depressing.

TheWorstPlayer
11-16-2005, 01:15 AM
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Rocky Mount, NC. No need for explanation for anyone who has been there.

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If it were bigger, it might rival Bakersfield.

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What the hell were you doing in Rocky Mount? And I'm so sorry you had to be there. Was this for real estate? I can't believe the RE market is booming there...

mason55
11-16-2005, 01:15 AM
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The Don
11-16-2005, 01:36 AM
Washington DC is without a doubt #1 for me. Syracuse is pretty bad though... To tell you the truth Baltimore sucks also. I need to move to NYC.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-16-2005, 01:44 AM
I really don't know how anybody could say DC with a straight face. As mentioned by a previous poster, it just has too much fine culture to rank anywhere in the bottom. I am not making any defense for its people, crime rate, or general cleanliness, but I do think that the museums and monuments make up for a lot.

radek2166
11-16-2005, 02:00 AM
Lets see I like

I like San Fran, Have allways liked Phoenix, I like Cheyenne, Pittsburgh cause it is home also Enjoyed San Antonio. Denver has some Pluses. Albuquerque how ever the [censored] u spell it

Cant stand LA, Yuma San Diego St. Louis is a pit

clipset
11-16-2005, 02:04 AM
Detroit is America's arm pit

B Dids
11-16-2005, 02:11 AM
What's the specific beef with Seattle?

There are things I hate about here, but the overall awesomeness really outshines the bad.

There are few towns with less merit that Tacoma, WA.

Atlantic City (-The Borgata) is horrible.

Local bias- but I hate Spokane, WA a lot too, basically all the negatives of a larger city, and none of the good stuff.

Sponger15SB
11-16-2005, 02:20 AM
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LA

NYC

SD

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San Diego?!?

WTF?

d10
11-16-2005, 02:21 AM
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No one said Washington, DC? Come on people, this place is more dangerous than Iraq.

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This statement is retarded and not even close to being true. Also, as others have mentioned, DC is one of the greatest cities in the world.

ChipWrecked
11-16-2005, 02:23 AM
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New Haven has the best pizza in the U.S. and must be moved up the list because of this fact.

1. Gary, Indiana
2. Bakersfield, CA
3. Any city in Arkansas, North or South Dakota

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There are actually a few very pleasant cities in Arkansas.

But, they wouldn't want your ass around anyway.

Johnstown, PA
Bakersfield
Newark, NJ

thatpfunk
11-16-2005, 02:33 AM
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I hate LA.

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Minnesota has cities? I thought it was just frozen wasteland all year round.

thatpfunk
11-16-2005, 02:39 AM
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im just curious what exactly there is to dislike about san diego?

radek2166
11-16-2005, 02:40 AM
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WTF?

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To cold, air sucks, cloudy, windy.

daryn
11-16-2005, 02:47 AM
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im just curious what exactly there is to dislike about san diego?

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not my style baby. the city has no character whatsoever. it's almost as if nobody is actually FROM san diego, they just move there from other places with no personality, like the whole midwest for instance.

feels like a manufactured city. to me, nice weather doesn't make a city.

Go Blue
11-16-2005, 02:53 AM
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Ann Arbor, look how [censored] ugly...

http://www.michiganfansite.com/images/stadium2.gif

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What are you, a [censored] Buckeye?

Ann Arbor is rated as in top 10 overall cities to live in, in the US. I'm glad I went to school there.

KKbluff
11-16-2005, 02:54 AM
South Bend, IN

Cleveland, TN

Go Blue
11-16-2005, 02:57 AM
NYC would get a vote from me (with the exception of Manhattan)...and I grew up in NYC so yeah. In addition, I would say Boston, DC, Philadelphia, any city in Ohio (not just because I hate Ohio State, but becuase that whole state is a dump...seriously), and Nashville.

JoeC
11-16-2005, 03:30 AM
Dallas, TX

Durham, NC

Cleveland, OH

can't believe the first two haven't gotten any mentions yet

Cancuk
11-16-2005, 03:54 AM
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I hate LA.

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Who the F would ever go to Minnesota?

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Canadiens???

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Are you french?

Cancuk
11-16-2005, 04:05 AM
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There is no city in the world with nearly as much consistent, quality powder within an hour of an international airport. SLC sucks I will give you that, but the skiing alone should keep it off the list.

and someone from albuquerque probably shouldn't be posting in this thread :-P

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I might have to disagree with the quote, "There is no city in the world with nearly as much consistent, quality powder within an hour of an international airport."

Try the following airports: Vancouver International, Kelowna International, Cranbrook International.

Cancuk
11-16-2005, 04:08 AM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

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Typical

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Cancuk
11-16-2005, 04:11 AM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

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Typical

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Our little brother to the north has his penis in a knot, and to make up for his country-envy he's throwing out grossly generic weak insults at a country that he will never hold a match to. THAT, is typical.

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Wow, way to play into every sterotype that is America.

Do you wonder why America is the most hated country?

JaBlue
11-16-2005, 04:15 AM
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Bakersfield ... the place feels like it has an infused sense of evil.

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I believe that is the high prevalence of crystal meth use

Cancuk
11-16-2005, 04:22 AM
For Smaller Cities:

Spokane, Washington.

Rockford, Illinois

Bismarc, North Dakota

For Larger Cities:

Washington D.C.

Baltimore

Middle America

TheMainEvent
11-16-2005, 04:24 AM
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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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You're from Canada. Please shut the [censored] up.

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Typical

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Our little brother to the north has his penis in a knot, and to make up for his country-envy he's throwing out grossly generic weak insults at a country that he will never hold a match to. THAT, is typical.

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Wow, way to play into every sterotype that is America.

Do you wonder why America is the most hated country?

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In all honesty we wouldn't make fun of Canada so much if it didn't make you guys so angry and defensive. You know how bullies love to get a rise out of people.

YourFoxyGrandma
11-16-2005, 04:28 AM
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Rochester. It's essentially Buffalo without a football team or decent concerts.

IronUnkind
11-16-2005, 04:41 AM
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Bogota doesn't have an airport?

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 04:41 AM
I can't believe I went through this entire thread and didn't see Green Bay get mentioned at all. I'd have expected some of my chi-town brethren mention it

I will also agree with Newark NJ, Detroit, Gary Ind., and here is a chicago special, Schaumberg IL(if you are from the north burbs, this is a god awful place, and we all make fun of it)

Schneids
11-16-2005, 04:49 AM
YES!!! I want Schaumberg added to my list. I'm from MN and have never been there but even I know of its suckiness!

IronUnkind
11-16-2005, 04:51 AM
Seattle over Bakersfield? That's just nutty.

MyTurn2Raise
11-16-2005, 05:11 AM
Schaumberg...LOL. I thought people in the North Burbs made fun of Waukegan.

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif Woodfield.

In the West burbs, we make fun of Aurora due to its lovely East side.

South Suburbs have too much crap to mention it all. Ford Heights Police Department says it all.

I'm still going with Peoria, Gary, and E St. Louis though.

The one positive is Big Al's in Peoria...it's nice.

FishNChips
11-16-2005, 07:08 AM
Albany, NY without question

1 - AWEFUL weather ... snowed 18" on April 9. Has a reasonable chance to snow anywhere from October through April (are you friggin kidding me?)
2 - NOTHING to do. There is a minor league hockey team. Otherwise, nothigng
3 - mean/cranky/unfriendly/unwelcoming people.

Other than that its a great friggin place!

FishNChips
11-16-2005, 07:12 AM
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Lets see I like

I like San Fran, Have allways liked Phoenix, I like Cheyenne, Pittsburgh cause it is home also Enjoyed San Antonio. Denver has some Pluses. Albuquerque how ever the [censored] u spell it

Cant stand LA, Yuma San Diego St. Louis is a pit

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anyone that lists San Diego here needs to have their head checked

rwperu34
11-16-2005, 07:50 AM
El Paso, Texas is pretty horrendous.

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11-16-2005, 08:38 AM
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No one said Washington, DC? Come on people, this place is more dangerous than Iraq.

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This statement is retarded and not even close to being true. Also, as others have mentioned, DC is one of the greatest cities in the world.

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There are two D.C.'s. One is wonderful and entirely safe, the other, well, not so much.

Stay in the downtown, governmental/tourist area and you'll be fine. Despite being a subway, the Metro is about as safe a method of travel as there is.

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11-16-2005, 08:45 AM
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Not at all shocking to see that not one person has had anything bad to say about Minnesota cities.

I hate LA.

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Who the F would ever go to Minnesota?

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Last December, my wife and I closed our practices (she's a divorce lawyer, I'm a psychologist), sold our house and offices, and moved our family to Minnesota. Good schools, good recreational areas, and nice folk. It is truly a wonderful place to live. Of course, it does get a mite nippy from time to time, but other than that...

ChipWrecked
11-16-2005, 08:52 AM
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El Paso, Texas is pretty horrendous.

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Yes, but at least you can look across the river and thank God you're not in Juarez.

11-16-2005, 10:13 AM
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Remember to bring your passport when you visit, and convert your dollars to pesos. Yes, caucasians are in the minority here, but we have a good mix of all cultures (and cuisines.) Spanish and Native American are the predominant cultures. I wish I spoke Spanish. The only Spanish I know is "tequila anejo" and "relleno." Don't worry, almost all people speak English around here. Even if someone doesn't, they'll probably have someone else with them who speaks both.

Albuquerque, where the towels are oh so fluffy! Thanks, Weird Al!

Where are you from? If you're serious, send me a PM and we'll keep talking. I'd be happy to give you a native's perspective.

I've never been to Boston, but I can imagine how much it sucks.

ScottieK

11-16-2005, 10:15 AM
I liked Spokane when I was there for about two weeks. Checking out the Gonzaga chicks was fun, and they have a real river! So what's wrong with it?

ScottieK

Peca277
11-16-2005, 11:26 AM
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I moved out to Rochester a year ago. It's far from great, but it ain't all that bad. There are a couple of rough neighborhoods, but they don't extend all that far. Most of the places I go are fairly safe to walk around at night. The winters haven't been half as bad as Buffalo. Buffalo has two lakes dumping snow on them. Rochester only has one.

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As provided by NOAA

Rochester average annual snowfall: 92.3
Buffalo average annual snowfall: 93.6

Man that second lake really dumps an extra 1.3 inches on Buffalo... glad you're safe in Rochester haha /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Very, very rarely does Buffalo get lake effect snow from Lake Ontario... weather patterns don't often bring storms south west.

The real bitch of the whole thing is that while Buffalo has the "blizzard capital" reputation, Syracuse averages 115.6 inches each year! That being said, I got out of Buffalo as soon as possible. I love the people back there, but the city does have a lot to be desired.

And it wasn't just Super Bowl XXV that depressed us. It was Super Bowl XXVI, Super Bowl XXVII, Super Bowl XXVIII, no goal, and forward lateral all contributing!

sfer
11-16-2005, 11:28 AM
Hoboken

McGahee
11-16-2005, 12:00 PM
Wow, lots of Upstate New Yorkers. I lived in Syracuse &amp; Rochester for a while - they're actually pretty nice places to live I think, other than there being no jobs.

I moved to Philly 3 years ago and can't really argue with anything that's been said. The mayor is corrupt, the city does smell, the unions suck, and the people overall are questionable. Also, you would think it was a southern city the way they react to winters. If theres 1/2 inch of snow everything shuts down, where as 6 everybody gets on with their lives after a 6 foot storm in Syracuse. Also, public transporation doesn't run late, so they're basically begging people from the burbs to drink &amp; drive. Also, I-76 has to be the worst highway ever, east of LA anyway.

mlh2e
11-16-2005, 12:04 PM
Why were you in Cleveland, TN? You go to Lee?

Yes, that place is terrible.

Macedon
11-16-2005, 12:33 PM
I can't understand how so many of you can list NYC as your least favorite city. C'mon, give me an f'in break, I just don't buy that NYC is the place that comes to mind as THE WORST???

Are you telling me you would rather spend more time in Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, or Newark than NYC? That's baloney.

I lived in Manhattan (5 years), Brooklyn (2 years), and Queens (3 years). I can tell you from experience that this not an easy place to live. The bull that you have to put up with here is amazing---high taxes, high prices, abnoxious people, disgusting commuting, back-biting corporate dickheads, and some women that are more heartless than men. But even with that said, the city is STILL an amazing place.

Reasons to like NYC:
/images/graemlins/spade.gif The tastiest and most diverse selection of food anywhere on the planet. (Just try to find another city that offers exceptional pizza, sushi, and steaks, all within a block of each other)
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif The hot women here are REALLY HOT. Go to any halfway decent bar on a thursday-Saturday night and you are guaranteed to find women who will leave you speachless.
/images/graemlins/heart.gif The entertainment is endless. (OK, so your not into Broadway, what about sports---yankees, knicks, rangers? Sports not your thing either? How about top-notch concerts or nightclubs? Don't like music? How about movies; we have a theater on every block. Still nothing? How about boating? You can sail up the hudson, and go swimming or fishing off your boat---yes it is clean enough, done it myself. Nope? Well then the problem is you.)
/images/graemlins/club.gif You can make mad money here. (If you have an above average IQ and 3 times the amount of "normal" ambition, this town will reward you.)

The fact that NYC is on your WORST list shows a lack of imagination, or a self-image problem.

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I can't understand how so many of you can list NYC as your least favorite city. C'mon, give me an f'in break, I just don't buy that NYC is the place that comes to mind as THE WORST???

Are you telling me you would rather spend more time in Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, or Newark than NYC? That's baloney.

I lived in Manhattan (5 years), Brooklyn (2 years), and Queens (3 years). I can tell you from experience that this not an easy place to live. The bull that you have to put up with here is amazing---high taxes, high prices, abnoxious people, disgusting commuting, back-biting corporate dickheads, and some women that are more heartless than men. But even with that said, the city is STILL an amazing place.

Reasons to like NYC:
/images/graemlins/spade.gif The tastiest and most diverse selection of food anywhere on the planet. (Just try to find another city that offers exceptional pizza, sushi, and steaks, all within a block of each other)
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif The hot women here are REALLY HOT. Go to any halfway decent bar on a thursday-Saturday night and you are guaranteed to find women who will leave you speachless.


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In regards to your first point...uhhh, Chicago? Houston? I don't think NYers realize how ethnically diverse Houston is. They think it's full of white cowboys. Houston offers great steaks, middle-eastern food, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Mexican (Mexican to us is like Pizza to NYers), and on and on.

Your second point....hot women??? Really? I think the only hot women there are unattainable unless you are a multi-millionaire. The average NY female looks like DOGMEAT. You really need to travel to the midwest, and South, where you will find true natural beauties that are attainable.

I'll give you entertainment and money though. And I will give you the fact taht saying NYC is the worst city is silly. Some people just haven't been to Detroit or Memphis yet. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

RunDownHouse
11-16-2005, 01:11 PM
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Too bad you have to brave the light rail to get to all of those places. For all of NYC's faults, it really is true that you can find huge varieties of stuff all in very close proximity. There aren't very many "pedestrian" cities like NYC.

Rootabager
11-16-2005, 01:15 PM
Flatwoods, KY the home of Billy Ray Cyrus.

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11-16-2005, 01:24 PM
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Lets see I like

I like San Fran, Have allways liked Phoenix, I like Cheyenne, Pittsburgh cause it is home also Enjoyed San Antonio. Denver has some Pluses. Albuquerque how ever the [censored] u spell it

Cant stand LA, Yuma San Diego St. Louis is a pit

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anyone that lists San Diego here needs to have their head checked

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Y I personally think cali as a whole sucks ass

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11-16-2005, 01:24 PM
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to be fair, i listed it as my 2nd least favorite..

also, this is only out of cities i have been to. how can i comment on buffalo, detroit, etc. when i have never been to them?

B Dids
11-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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I liked Spokane when I was there for about two weeks. Checking out the Gonzaga chicks was fun, and they have a real river! So what's wrong with it?

ScottieK

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Spokane has the crime and grunge of a large city w/minimal culture. It's kinda got sprawling suburbs and a ton of strip malls, but no meaningfull downtown.

I'm originally from Pullman, and now live in Seattle- and Spokane takes the worst elements of both and combines them.

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11-16-2005, 01:27 PM
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Your second point....hot women??? Really? I think the only hot women there are unattainable unless you are a multi-millionaire. The average NY female looks like DOGMEAT. You really need to travel to the midwest, and South, where you will find true natural beauties that are attainable.

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We are not really disagreeing here. There are HOT women and there are some really fugly women. The problem with the hot women is that they grow into Hot Women With An Agenda.

HOWEVER, for a brief period between ages 18-25, these women are sexually attenable by any charming shmuck with pocket money. After 25, well, their standards change and they become portfolio obsessed.

And do not discount the women of Brooklyn. Although their rough accents and street smart personas put them into a different class than Manhattan chicks, there are still some knock-outs in that borough. Many of my teenage years were spent enjoying Brooklyn girls.

Sponger15SB
11-16-2005, 01:27 PM
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Schaumberg IL(if you are from the north burbs, this is a god awful place, and we all make fun of it)

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Ok, since my grandmother and uncle are from there I'm qualified to say that it sure does suck, but this isn't the list of "least important cities ever". Really? Schaumberg annoys you that much that its on your list? You need to travel more.

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11-16-2005, 01:31 PM
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For a big city I can't stand, how about Salt Lake City. Yes.

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There is no city in the world with nearly as much consistent, quality powder within an hour of an international airport. SLC sucks I will give you that, but the skiing alone should keep it off the list.

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At first, I thought you were referring to nose candy.

bugstud
11-16-2005, 01:42 PM
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Schaumberg...LOL. I thought people in the North Burbs made fun of Waukegan.

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif Woodfield.

In the West burbs, we make fun of Aurora due to its lovely East side.

South Suburbs have too much crap to mention it all. Ford Heights Police Department says it all.

I'm still going with Peoria, Gary, and E St. Louis though.

The one positive is Big Al's in Peoria...it's nice.

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peoria over decatur, springfield and rockford? uggggggh. enough nitpicking though, downstate is downstate for a reason.

MasterShakes
11-16-2005, 02:08 PM
So far, it's Detroit, MI by quite a bit. Several other cities are just meh to me, but I dislike none of them like I do Detroit.

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11-16-2005, 02:12 PM
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Schaumberg...LOL. I thought people in the North Burbs made fun of Waukegan.



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don't get me started on Waukegan. Actually, my HS got a reprimand from teh IHSA for chants we made towards Waukegan at a football game at our home my junior year


but, schaumberg is much worse. They are both worthless towns in fact

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 02:16 PM
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since it got gentrified in the last 3 years, its not as bad

sfer
11-16-2005, 02:17 PM
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since it got gentrified in the last 3 years, its not as bad

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That's EXACTLY why Hoboken sucks.

TeeJayORTj
11-16-2005, 02:18 PM
I can come up with three.

1) Hartford, CT. I did an internship there for 6 months and on the 3rd day some crack head broke into my car. The worst par was a camera was pointing at the car but the lazy ass cops wouldn't come to look at the tape.

2) Philadelphia, PA. I do like the CHeesestakes but other then that not so good. Dirty place tons of bums and everyone is too proud of their "baby New York" Also in terms of the bars I have been too none have impressed me really .

3) El Paso, TX. Wow talk about boring. Baren wasteland with nothing to do. Just a depressing place...like previously mentioned the only thing to keep you with a positive outlook is that it could be worse, you could be in Juarez.

Honorable Mention
-Worcester, MA

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 02:19 PM
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I can't understand how so many of you can list NYC as your least favorite city. C'mon, give me an f'in break, I just don't buy that NYC is the place that comes to mind as THE WORST???

Are you telling me you would rather spend more time in Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, or Newark than NYC? That's baloney.

I lived in Manhattan (5 years), Brooklyn (2 years), and Queens (3 years). I can tell you from experience that this not an easy place to live. The bull that you have to put up with here is amazing---high taxes, high prices, abnoxious people, disgusting commuting, back-biting corporate dickheads, and some women that are more heartless than men. But even with that said, the city is STILL an amazing place.

Reasons to like NYC:
/images/graemlins/spade.gif The tastiest and most diverse selection of food anywhere on the planet. (Just try to find another city that offers exceptional pizza, sushi, and steaks, all within a block of each other)
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif The hot women here are REALLY HOT. Go to any halfway decent bar on a thursday-Saturday night and you are guaranteed to find women who will leave you speachless.


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In regards to your first point...uhhh, Chicago? Houston? I don't think NYers realize how ethnically diverse Houston is. They think it's full of white cowboys. Houston offers great steaks, middle-eastern food, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Mexican (Mexican to us is like Pizza to NYers), and on and on.

Your second point....hot women??? Really? I think the only hot women there are unattainable unless you are a multi-millionaire. The average NY female looks like DOGMEAT. You really need to travel to the midwest, and South, where you will find true natural beauties that are attainable.

I'll give you entertainment and money though. And I will give you the fact taht saying NYC is the worst city is silly. Some people just haven't been to Detroit or Memphis yet. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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JFarrell, you really need a glass of stfu juice. THe dude you're quoting knows whats up when talking about NYC. In fact, I think I heard a stat somewhere that said that NYC had a 3-1 girl to guy ratio, and a lot of those women are smokin.

You always will be a tard though, so, there isn't much that can be expected from you

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 02:21 PM
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Schaumberg IL(if you are from the north burbs, this is a god awful place, and we all make fun of it)

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Ok, since my grandmother and uncle are from there I'm qualified to say that it sure does suck, but this isn't the list of "least important cities ever". Really? Schaumberg annoys you that much that its on your list? You need to travel more.

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naw, I've travled plenty, I just wanted to bust out Schaumberg as a good crap town memory from when I grew up in chicago

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 02:23 PM
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since it got gentrified in the last 3 years, its not as bad

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That's EXACTLY why Hoboken sucks.

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as I have said to you several times on this board, good point

MonkeeMan
11-16-2005, 02:24 PM
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In fact, I think I heard a stat somewhere that said that NYC had a 3-1 girl to guy ratio, and a lot of those women are smokin.

You always will be a tard though, so, there isn't much that can be expected from you

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LOL, you quote a stat like that and call him a tard!

KDawgCometh
11-16-2005, 02:30 PM
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In fact, I think I heard a stat somewhere that said that NYC had a 3-1 girl to guy ratio, and a lot of those women are smokin.

You always will be a tard though, so, there isn't much that can be expected from you

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LOL, you quote a stat like that and call him a tard!

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well, for proof of how much of a tard he is, go to FullContactPoker and search the poster name JFarrell20, all I can say is, enjoy

vulturesrow
11-16-2005, 02:31 PM
The only that really comes to mind for me is St Louis. I dont have any specific reason, I just always feel like the life is being sucked out of me when I am there.

chessforlife
11-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Newark, New Jersey is up there.

RunDownHouse
11-16-2005, 02:40 PM
You do realize that it wasn't JFwhatever that was disagreeing about NYC women, right?

djj6835
11-16-2005, 02:55 PM
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4. East St. Louis, IL


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This is correct. Imagine taking the worst parts of big cities and combining them and you get east St. Louis. The exact opposite of St. Louis, Mo.

JihadOnTheRiver
11-16-2005, 03:17 PM
Philadelphia. And it doesn't appear close. It appears that my initial summary of Philly is pretty close, and the only people willing to defend the city is its residents.

I didn't expect this many responses, but I've waded through every single one, and without the use of a poll, Philadelphia appears to be, by far, OOT's least favorite city.

I found it interesting to see a few people list DC and NY. There are some rather dispicable qualities of both cities, but to call them the WORST city in America might be a bit excessive with all the options each city offers that don't involve driveby's and used drug needles.

11-16-2005, 03:19 PM
There is no way in hell that there is a 3-to-1 girl-to-guy ratio in NYC. I'd bet my life on it.

And sure there are some super-fine supermodels and stuff there, but to the average guy (not unlike myself), these girls are unattainable.

There are a lot of gorgeous "average" midwester and southern girls, whom aren't even necessarily aware that they are gorgeous. These girls are attainable for guys like me, and Costanza, etc.

On any given night the entire Victoria's Secret model-corps could be in NYC, along with Beyonce, Britney, etc. How does this help ?

11-16-2005, 03:22 PM
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No way man. Don't talk about my hometown li'dat.

vulturesrow
11-16-2005, 03:24 PM
Im willing to have my mind changed by hanging out with someone that knows the town better than I do. But the couple times I have been there, I havent been impressed to say the least.

11-16-2005, 03:30 PM
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Schaumberg...LOL. I thought people in the North Burbs made fun of Waukegan.

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif Woodfield.

In the West burbs, we make fun of Aurora due to its lovely East side.

South Suburbs have too much crap to mention it all. Ford Heights Police Department says it all.

I'm still going with Peoria, Gary, and E St. Louis though.

The one positive is Big Al's in Peoria...it's nice.

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peoria over decatur, springfield and rockford? uggggggh. enough nitpicking though, downstate is downstate for a reason.

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This reminds me of the Quad Cities. Moline, Rock Island...and a couple others? Davenport? I believe this is where "Roseanne" is set. My dad used to take me up there when he was on business when I was a little kid and the coolest thing was the Holiday Inn pool with the big polar bear.

SinCityGuy
11-16-2005, 03:37 PM
Of the ones I've actually been to:

1. Chapel Hill, NC
2. Jersey City, NJ
3. Riverside, CA
4. Fayetteville, NC
5. Little Rock, AR

banditbdl
11-16-2005, 03:42 PM
I remember feeling like I was trapped in a giant stip mall that never ends when I was in Spokane.

Go_Blue88
11-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Lake Forest, Illinois.

This is full of the snobbiest people that I've ever met. The kids drive BMW's and Porches; it's like Laguna Beach except colder.

11-16-2005, 04:14 PM
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What's the specific beef with Seattle?

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I hate the downtown area, it feels so dirty/dark/dank/just generally not good. I just hate it for being a cut-rate Vancouver really. Everything about Seattle is sort of Vancouver-lite, and I hate that everyone says "oh it's just like Vancouver!" when it's really awful. Personal reasons as well, I hate all the people I've ever had to work with there, etc, etc.

Good point about Spokane, I haven't been there in a long time, I forgot what a real piece of [censored] it is.

Wes ManTooth
11-16-2005, 04:36 PM
in the bigger cities there are at least some decent parts to live in...

Cities like,
Camden, NJ
Homer, AK
Jackson, MS

are all horrible

11-16-2005, 04:51 PM
The only time I've ever just been nervous because of my surroundings all the way through a stay was in Gary, Indiana. Ugly, ugly town.

Gary (irony...)

The Don
11-16-2005, 05:19 PM
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I really don't know how anybody could say DC with a straight face. As mentioned by a previous poster, it just has too much fine culture to rank anywhere in the bottom. I am not making any defense for its people, crime rate, or general cleanliness, but I do think that the museums and monuments make up for a lot.

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DC sucks because...

1) It is the center of government coercion.
2) It is filled with scumbag politicians.
3) There is no culture in Southern MD/Northern VA except American (BASEBALL! HOT DOGS!) culture... which sucks.
4) Actually there is a ton of 'urban' culture ("wiggers" perhaps... I don't have a problem with this except they are trying too hard to convey an image... much like politicians).
5) Tons of crime and overall destitution.

daryn
11-16-2005, 05:20 PM
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The only time I've ever just been nervous because of my surroundings all the way through a stay was in Gary, Indiana. Ugly, ugly town.

Gary (irony...)

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there's nothing ironic about you saying that gary indiana is an ugly town, even though your name is gary.

SomethingClever
11-16-2005, 05:24 PM
This time of year... Corvallis, OR.

11-16-2005, 05:26 PM
Well, it wasn't profound or anything, but there has to be some small irony in that of all the people who could tell you Gary is a hellhole, it was the one named Gary who thought to mention it.

Gary

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The only time I've ever just been nervous because of my surroundings all the way through a stay was in Gary, Indiana. Ugly, ugly town.

Gary (irony...)

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there's nothing ironic about you saying that gary indiana is an ugly town, even though your name is gary.

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daryn
11-16-2005, 05:38 PM
no, there's no irony in that at all.

11-16-2005, 05:42 PM
ok, you win.

G

JihadOnTheRiver
11-16-2005, 07:03 PM
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3) There is no culture in Southern MD/Northern VA except American (BASEBALL! HOT DOGS!) culture... which sucks.

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go [censored] yourself

ChipWrecked
11-16-2005, 11:19 PM
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Lets see I like

I like San Fran, Have allways liked Phoenix, I like Cheyenne, Pittsburgh cause it is home also Enjoyed San Antonio. Denver has some Pluses. Albuquerque how ever the [censored] u spell it

Cant stand LA, Yuma San Diego St. Louis is a pit

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anyone that lists San Diego here needs to have their head checked

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Y I personally think cali as a whole sucks ass

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I have lived in Cali for five years, so I think I can FYP a bit what you really meant:

cali is awesome. Californians suck ass.

Your mileage may vary.

11-16-2005, 11:32 PM
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Man...too many good ones

1. Peoria, IL
2. Gary, IN
3. Detroit, MI
4. East St. Louis, IL
5. Philadelphia, PA

(I'm obviously Midwest based)

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This place sucks, but it had the best strip club I've ever been to. It used to be called Diamond Cabaret, but I think it is Penthouse something or other now. My friend in St. Louis said it is still just as great.

Reef
11-16-2005, 11:43 PM
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I remember feeling like I was trapped in a giant stip mall that never ends when I was in Spokane.

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Welcome to Spokompton

11-17-2005, 12:09 AM
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Hoboken

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since it got gentrified in the last 3 years, its not as bad

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That's EXACTLY why Hoboken sucks.

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Hoboken sucks b/c it is in NJ.

d10
11-17-2005, 12:36 AM
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I really don't know how anybody could say DC with a straight face. As mentioned by a previous poster, it just has too much fine culture to rank anywhere in the bottom. I am not making any defense for its people, crime rate, or general cleanliness, but I do think that the museums and monuments make up for a lot.

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DC sucks because...

1) It is the center of government coercion.
2) It is filled with scumbag politicians.
3) There is no culture in Southern MD/Northern VA except American (BASEBALL! HOT DOGS!) culture... which sucks.
4) Actually there is a ton of 'urban' culture ("wiggers" perhaps... I don't have a problem with this except they are trying too hard to convey an image... much like politicians).
5) Tons of crime and overall destitution.

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Southern MD and NoVA is not a part of DC. Also, I'm not sure how you can be talking about the culture of the city when you live in Baltimore. Any monument in DC &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The world's largest trash can.

11-17-2005, 05:48 AM
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This time of year... Corvallis, OR.

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The only reason you should ever visit Corvallis OR is if your going to party with kids from OSU or go cow tipping. Therefore this time is the best time to visit while school is still in session.

dibbs
11-17-2005, 06:45 AM
I've spent under a week at both of these places but Detroit and Philly are my top two.

dibbs
11-17-2005, 06:49 AM
Lawrence is real bad. Lynn too. Only been to Waltham a few times at rich kids houses so dont have that bad an impression of it, know its got its sht though.

lautzutao
11-17-2005, 07:09 AM
You've obviously never benn to SanFransisco

DeathbySuckout
11-17-2005, 12:29 PM
To all of you hatin' on Philly,

YO! [censored] YOUS GUYS!

If you don't like our [censored] city, don't come back! Problem solved! (even if most of the reasons givin were spot on)

Cheesesteaks: Anybody that says there is a better cheesesteak than at Gino's, Pat's or Jim's on South St., you're talking out your ass, and you lose all credibility.

Couple things going for Philly:

Rita's water ice - If you guys only knew
Ben Franklin Pretzel Factory in Kensington - Just don't go there until the sun comes up
Flyers - enough said


And my least favorite American Cities:

1 - Canada (or is that a state?)
2 - Trenton, because I have to work there everyday, and because it's in NJ

MonkeeMan
11-17-2005, 12:34 PM
Don't forget hoagies, butterscotch krimpets and fried pork roll and cheese sandwichs.