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Punker
11-15-2005, 08:14 AM
To save, time, let's have a template.

"I can't belive (Player X) won! What are the voters thinking? (Player Y) was clearly more valuable to his team...they must not care about (insert statistical category where player Y beat Player X). Hell, even (insert random local average player) was better than who they picked. I will never watch baseball again."
rwperu34
11-15-2005, 12:06 PM
The problem with this thread is, the voters can't go wrong in the NL.
Clarkmeister
11-15-2005, 12:07 PM
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The problem with this thread is, the voters can't go wrong in the NL.

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ROFL

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unlucky513
11-15-2005, 12:24 PM
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The problem with this thread is, the voters can't go wrong in the NL.

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ROFL

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exactly.
MightyMouse
11-15-2005, 12:35 PM
its derrek lee right???
MightyMouse
11-15-2005, 12:36 PM
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its derrek lee right???

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No, joking aside, lee and pujols were soooo similar I wont be mad with either selection. However, if Andruw Jones gets it, then I will recognize the MVP voting as a jopke.
mmbt0ne
11-15-2005, 01:03 PM
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its derrek lee right???

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No, joking aside, lee and pujols were soooo similar I wont be mad with either selection. However, if Andruw Jones gets it, then I will recognize the MVP voting as a jopke.

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LOL. Lee is 3rd by a large margin. Pujols wins, Andruw's second.

However, Kurkjian's reasons on SC were total [censored]. He's trying to play Albert up because he had no protection in the lineup. HE HAD NO PROTECTION!?! Puh-lease.
Hornacek
11-15-2005, 01:06 PM
How the Albert have less protection than Andruw Jones????
mmbt0ne
11-15-2005, 01:10 PM
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How the Albert have less protection than Andruw Jones????

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Exactly. (Assuming I'm reading this right by adding "hell did" b/n 'the' and 'Albert')

I also liked his one second blurb on Andruw. "He carried the Braves for most of the season. He's also only the fourth player to hit 50 HR in a gold glove year."

Yeah, his BA sucked, and he won't win MVP because of that. But jesus, give him a little more respect maybe?
Jack of Arcades
11-15-2005, 01:37 PM
Andruw Jones shouldn't come close to the MVP award.
rwperu34
11-15-2005, 02:24 PM
Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.
11-15-2005, 02:26 PM
Jones should win it. If I had to guess the voting went 55% to Jones, 45% to Pujols.
TheRover
11-15-2005, 02:30 PM
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Andruw Jones shouldn't come close to the MVP award.

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Jack of Arcades
11-15-2005, 04:54 PM
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Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.

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Sorry, my MVP does a little better than a .721 OPS with RISP. See Albert's 1.093 or Derrek's 1.113.
mmbt0ne
11-15-2005, 05:08 PM
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Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.

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Sorry, my MVP does a little better than a .721 OPS with RISP. See Albert's 1.093 or Derrek's 1.113.

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How about carry a team into the playoffs? Have a career year at the plate while still playing a better CF than anyone else in the majors?

He deserves what he got. 2nd place.
Jack of Arcades
11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
On a team with Marcus Giles, Chipper Jones, Rafael Furcal, and John Smoltz, Andruw Jones carried the Braves to the playoffs?

What. the. [censored]. ever.
mmbt0ne
11-15-2005, 07:39 PM
LOL. You're right.

Chipper: 109 games, 21 HR, 72 RBI
Giles: 15 HR, 63 RBI
battschr
11-15-2005, 08:19 PM
If Lee or Pujols won, I would have been fine witht he choice, Jones would have been a horrible choice. As much as I hate Pujols and the Cards, he's a monster and deserved the award.
Clarkmeister
11-16-2005, 12:03 AM
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How the Albert have less protection than Andruw Jones????

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I know that So Taguchi is pretty intimidating, but I had no idea he was this feared.
Jack of Arcades
11-16-2005, 06:20 PM
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LOL. You're right.

Chipper: 109 games, 21 HR, 72 RBI
Giles: 15 HR, 63 RBI

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RISP
Giles: .291/.395/.489
Chipper: .286/.438/.476

Look, I'm not saying Andruw's a failure or a horrible person or that he's unclutch. He'll probably always do worse in RISP given his profile (low BA, high-K hitter). But he's overvalued because he doesn't get on base and doesn't do well in RISP. He's a very good player, one of the 20 best in the bigs last year. He's not an MVP, and in no way did he carry this team (which had a sub-4 ERA). Now, Andruw's part of the reason for that superb defense, but so are Langerhans, Furcal, Giles, and LaRoche.