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outofstep
11-14-2005, 07:42 PM
Should I steal here? I raised that much because each had <10 BB. Can someone tell how me how one calculates the EV of this hand? Thanks for all the help.

#Game No : 3033154151
***** Hand History for Game 3033154151 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:17398311 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Monday, November 14, 00:29:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 68101 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Hero( $1165 )
Seat 4: Shilloy ( $515 )
Seat 7: lisapinkpant ( $310 )
Seat 8: LVNC21 ( $4885 )
Seat 10: zarvik ( $1125 )
Trny:17398311 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero[ Ac 4d ]
LVNC21 folds.
zarvik folds.
Hero raises [300].

Shilly
11-14-2005, 07:50 PM
My guess is BB wakes up with 66 and your hand is no good.

valenzuela
11-14-2005, 07:59 PM
This is a push IMO, betting 300 is the same as pushing.
Folding in this spot its criminal, i mean its only 75 chips...but those 75 chips might be quite useful later on.

zambonidrivr
11-14-2005, 08:21 PM
not at this level. if blinds were 100, then this is a push.

... let me explain a bit further. Those guys are desparate. Let them kill eachother off. By pushing, you gain 75 in chips which is not much relative to your position. At risk is your relativly good positioni to take down the tourney.

outofstep
11-15-2005, 12:39 AM
Lol. You know too much.

HesseJam
11-15-2005, 06:01 AM
[ QUOTE ]
not at this level. if blinds were 100, then this is a push.

... let me explain a bit further. Those guys are desparate. Let them kill eachother off. By pushing, you gain 75 in chips which is not much relative to your position. At risk is your relativly good positioni to take down the tourney.

[/ QUOTE ]

This can't be right. If the blinds are at 100 they would be even more desperate. No?

I think it's a push.

11-15-2005, 06:44 AM
If this is a push I've found a leak. I'd never push this to win t75.

HesseJam
11-15-2005, 08:10 AM
You can push because the SB has only slightly more than 10BB and the BB has only about 6 BB.

The SB will be somewhat tighter if you push because he counts on you taking out the BB. This is not necessarily the optimum play by the SB but since when are we playing against opponents who play the optimum?

BB will be way looser (at least he should be) but you are not in a bad shape if he calls.

11-15-2005, 08:22 AM
mah, I read the history wrong. I thought 'zarvik' was in the blinds. Even though you say pushing is correct, I think I see myself folding this.

caretaker1
11-15-2005, 08:52 AM
75 Chips plus potentially desperate stacks plus mediocre hand = EZ fold.

tigerite
11-15-2005, 02:18 PM
Unless they're calling only top 7% each (88+,AJo+,ATs+) this is actually a fold. Do people just not bother to do ICM calcs anymore or something?