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AllinDan
11-14-2005, 04:59 AM
Played my first $30+3 tonight and both these hands came up in level 1. I was quite unhappy with both and would like some feedback

Hand 1: Should my c-bet be bigger? I have to fold to the checkraise, right?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t790)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t825)
CO (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t247.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t200</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t547.50

Hand 2:
at the 10s and 20s I'd always make this call, but I was giving the players at the 30s more respect. Should I be?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 (t775)
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t775)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO (t590)</font>
Button (t1090)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)
Hero (t625)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t1065)
MP1 (t695)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls t75, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t125, MP3 Raises All in, CO is All in, Hero folds.

splashpot
11-14-2005, 05:02 AM
1. Your bet is fine. Clear fold after the raise though.
2. Push.

11-14-2005, 07:47 AM
Ugh, I hate QQ because the chance that a K or an A come up are enough to make u go broke. I know this doesn't bring in the money, but sometimes in level 1 and 2, I get so freaked out by QQ, that I just go on and push it PF. This is definitely not a very big +cEV play, but personally, I would like that better than playing against some guy who thinks AX or KX is a REALLY good hand and would willingly call ur 3-4X BB raise.

Freudian
11-14-2005, 08:41 AM
I think you played both fine. I would expect to see CO with AA/KK very often in hand 2.

Pete H
11-14-2005, 10:10 AM
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I think you played both fine. I would expect to see CO with AA/KK very often in hand 2.

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Hand 2: I fail to understand what's fine in calling the reraise.

With 550 chips I could only fold or push after the reraise.

Villains smallish reraise reeks of AA/KK, but without reads I'd probably push anyway.

Hornacek
11-14-2005, 10:18 AM
Hand 1: Preflop I'd raise more. There are still plenty of donks, and level 1 of a $33 is the best time to extract chips from them with premium hands. Post flop play was fine. If I were to be a stickler, I probably would have bet 75 or so on the flop for a cBet, only because an ace, and only an ace would call that kind of bet (unless previous case of donkishness).

Hand 2: Depends on your read of CO. MP3 seems like a donk and calling machine with Ax or mid pair. CO either has KK or AA, or is another donk. Really depends on your read. If you are dead set that he has KK or AA, your fold is fine.