Antique Guns

[peachy]

I know a good bit about guns but I purchased a few 1800/early 1900 guns today that I actually know little to nothing about. I know enough about guns to know I wasn't gettin robbed blind...but im still curious. Does anyone here have any knowledge in this area before I go through the trouble of posting what they are?

I am taking them to a gun store to have them cleaned up and apprasied ASAP but since I have a busy week I wanted to see if anyone here could help out...Im gonna try and search for them as well...but this was worth a shot.

I wrapped them up in sheep skin and towels at my moms house on my way back here...so I will go unwrap them so I can get the info from them and post pictures if needed and ill check back here to see if I even need to list what they are.

Thanks a ton to whoever knows more than me or can help!

[Brainwalter]

What are they?

[peachy]

French Double Barrel Percussion Shotgun 20 gauge

French Percussion Musket 70 Perc cal

Victor .32 s&w ctge nickel revolver (H&R 1910)

and a winchester model 55 single shot thats not that important b/c its a 1950ish i believe....but it came staight out of the winchester museum so even though its not as unique and costly as the others its in super excellent shape

The 2 french ones have alot of elaborate etchings in the wood and metal and im pleased with the condition they are in...they both have the original loading sticks as well

[peachy]

dunno if this will help /images/graemlins/frown.gif looks like its a lost cause

They need to be cleaned...but hey....

French Double Barrel Percussion Shotgun 20 gauge
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8029/img14122au.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14122au.jpg)


not so clear...but u can see the detail on the hammers
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9600/img14130gp.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14130gp.jpg)
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9885/img14164qw.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14164qw.jpg)


sideview (better view) of the hammer, etc.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2121/img14172hr.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14172hr.jpg)


French Percussion Musket 70 Perc cal
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1816/img14193rk.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14193rk.jpg)


Hammer and nipple
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3284/img14307oi.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14307oi.jpg)

etched flower like designs at the base (not AS clear)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1579/img14223xo.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14223xo.jpg)

etched flower like designs in front of trigger/hammer
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7905/img14243tl.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14243tl.jpg)


Victor .32 s&w ctge nickel revolver (H&R 1910)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4598/img14264af.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img14264af.jpg)

[JPinAZ]

If the gun store doesn't deal with antiques on a regular basis or know you well, I wouldn't bother with it. They'll just try to look it up in the Blue Book of Gun Values & tell you what it says. You could do the same if your library has a copy.

See what this guy can tell you:
http://www.armchairgunshow.com/index.htm
I've never dealt with him but I do check the web site a couple times a year & there are always antiques listed for sale.

[peachy]

no...they do deal with antiques there alot and its a guy that knows my dad as well (who most of these guns are a gift for for xmas) so i feel more comfortable having him look at them and clean them up for me than anyone

[JPinAZ]

If that's the situation then you should be fine. I just get sickened when I read a story of how Joe Random asks a gun shop how much a firearm is worth & is told "I'll give you $300 for it" when it's really worth $2,000.

[slamdunkpro]

I’m not real big on black powder but the shotgun looks like a common “no-name” field piece, and the musket looks like a “napoleon” but it’s hard to tell.

The .32 is most likely a railroad or police issue service arm, this was a very common handgun - lots and lots of these were made. I used to buy them from estates for around $50.

The Winchester model 55, is it a top loading single shot with bottom ejection, 22 inch round barrel? Is there a serial number? If it’s what I think it is there were around 45,000 were MFG between 1958-1961 according to my Winchester book. They go for around $175

[kipin]

Quite the photographer you are.

[peachy]

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If that's the situation then you should be fine. I just get sickened when I read a story of how Joe Random asks a gun shop how much a firearm is worth & is told "I'll give you $300 for it" when it's really worth $2,000.

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im not takin it to RESALE it...when i buy older things or guns they are for personal use...but i didnt want to give a "gun collector" something that is not up to thier standards when its not an area i know a ton of about...this is the purpose

[peachy]

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I’m not real big on black powder but the shotgun looks like a common “no-name” field piece, and the musket looks like a “napoleon” but it’s hard to tell.

The .32 is most likely a railroad or police issue service arm, this was a very common handgun - lots and lots of these were made. I used to buy them from estates for around $50.

The Winchester model 55, is it a top loading single shot with bottom ejection, 22 inch round barrel? Is there a serial number? If it’s what I think it is there were around 45,000 were MFG between 1958-1961 according to my Winchester book. They go for around $175

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hahah these were the two i knew the values of ball park...im more concerned with the older French ones

but thx for trying!

[mmbt0ne]

Just curious, where did you get these? They look a lot like some of the guns my grandfather had in his kitchen.

[peachy]

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Just curious, where did you get these? They look a lot like some of the guns my grandfather had in his kitchen.

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had in his kitchen?? what was he the one i robbed?

[mmbt0ne]

I don't know he did live in Athens. He had a ton of this stuff before he died a couple years ago. History professors will do that I guess. I haven't been back to the house since, but a lot of his stuff got donated to the libraries at UNC and NC State, maybe some to UGA too. The guns are probably still on the wall where they used to be, but I was just wondering. It'd be cool if they did get sold to know where they ended up.

[peachy]

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I don't know he did live in Athens. He had a ton of this stuff before he died a couple years ago. History professors will do that I guess. I haven't been back to the house since, but a lot of his stuff got donated to the libraries at UNC and NC State, maybe some to UGA too. The guns are probably still on the wall where they used to be, but I was just wondering. It'd be cool if they did get sold to know where they ended up.

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i got them at an auction this past weekend

[wacki]

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im not takin it to RESALE it...when i buy older things or guns they are for personal use...but i didnt want to give a "gun collector" something that is not up to thier standards when its not an area i know a ton of about...this is the purpose

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You are worried about insulting the guy that's going to clean and appraise the guns?

Also, resale isn't a verb.

[peachy]

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im not takin it to RESALE it...when i buy older things or guns they are for personal use...but i didnt want to give a "gun collector" something that is not up to thier standards when its not an area i know a ton of about...this is the purpose

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You are worried about insulting the guy that's going to clean and appraise the guns?

Also, resale isn't a verb.

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god...can u ever read anything i post right??

im TAKING them to an apprasier and cleaner so that i can give them as GIFTS to a gun collector - thus I am taking them there to make sure they are up to a "collectors" standards

[wacki]

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god...can u ever read anything i post right??

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Well, I just need clarification. I thought about that, but you are getting them appraised anyway so I was like why would she even need to post here.

Still, thanks for showing us pics of the old guns. Yaaayy show and tell time!!! I love gun pics! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[peachy]

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god...can u ever read anything i post right??

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Well, I just need clarification. I thought about that, but you are getting them appraised anyway so I was like why would she even need to post here.

Still, thanks for showing us pics of the old guns. Yaaayy show and tell time!!! I love gun pics! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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they are crap pictures...they dont show the detail enough or do them justice /images/graemlins/frown.gif

maybe when i get them cleaned and do the right lightening itll look better

[Lazymeatball]

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French Double Barrel Percussion Shotgun 20 gauge

French Percussion Musket 70 Perc cal



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I know a tone of people that can get you a deal on a french rifle. Only dropped once.

[diebitter]

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French Double Barrel Percussion Shotgun 20 gauge

French Percussion Musket 70 Perc cal



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I know a tone of people that can get you a deal on a french rifle. Only dropped once.

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hehehe

but I still think the French are awesome at war. Until they can build a military vehicle fast enough to catch a Frenchman running from a cap-gun, and strong enough to pull a Frenchman off his sister, they remain formidable.