A few things online playing has done to help my B&M game

[zuluking]

Figuring pot odds faster.

I'm more patient.

My reads of live opponents are better 10 fold.

and finally...

Before I started playing online 2 years ago I had this problem. When I played B&M, and got ahead by a good amount of chips, I'd start to loosen up and play more hands. I'd go from a 20/12 player to a 35/18 player. Sure enough, more often than not, I'd lose some chips, and tighten up again. Now, I play the same game throughout the session, just like online.

Just thought I'd share, thanks for listening.

zulu

[Greg J]

Awesome. I still don't see how you can do it without various numbers of multiple colors floating over everyone's head.

I still have not been to Argosy, but I'm too tired most days after working on my dissertation to even think of going to a card room. You been yet?

I've played a lot of online between my last two visits to a casino and it was difficult for me to play live. Yes, I can calculate odds quicker and have a better feel for the game. But afte 3 and 4 tabling, the game seems SO SLOW live...

Playing online does give you lots of experience quickly. I was thinking about this a while back...if you 4 table and see 80hands/hr/tbl, you would see 2560 hands in an 8 hr session. At 30 hands/hr in a cardroom, you would have to play 8 hrs/day for for over 10 days to acquire the same "experience."

[Poker Junkie]

I play much more on-line than live as well. Had a question about figuring pot odds faster. The pot amount is always on the screen when on-line so I think when I play live trying to keep track of the bets in the pot would be harder not faster, no? I like live play much better though as it seems much easier to pick up tells. (all though I need a lot more practice).

Walt

[Felipe]

20/12?

I'm buzzing around 21/8. Is "8" too low?

I would think that online play makes people "less" patient. I know that B&M play has made me more patient. Reading people is easier live, cause you can put remember a face better than a name like "Steve77".

[bravos1]

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Figuring pot odds faster.

I'm more patient.

My reads of live opponents are better 10 fold.

and finally...

Before I started playing online 2 years ago I had this problem. When I played B&M, and got ahead by a good amount of chips, I'd start to loosen up and play more hands. I'd go from a 20/12 player to a 35/18 player. Sure enough, more often than not, I'd lose some chips, and tighten up again. Now, I play the same game throughout the session, just like online.

Just thought I'd share, thanks for listening.

zulu

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I've noticed the same exact things except the part about being patient. Just the slow nature of B&M tends to lead me down the road of losing my patience. Luckily, there is always someone willing to chat it up a bit. Last B&M session I was at a table where the guy to my left played almost every hand /images/graemlins/smile.gif but hated when people talked when he was playing (no, I was not talking to him while he played) regardless of the topic (mostly NCAA football). I wanted to keep him happy, so I just shut up most of the night with my words being limited to mostly raise, bet, and call. I did not mind though as I left up 40BB in about 3.5 hrs.

Back to patience.... Zulu, in what respect do you see this patience? Hand selection, action selection, etc???

[macdaddy991]

Since you have so many more hands online then live, it makes live situations that much easier. IMO the best reason to play live is that most lower limit games are very soft. A competent player can play much higher live then online just based on skill level. (bankroll considerations apply here)

I hate counting bets. Live tells are great and handily make up for lack of stats.

[Nomad84]

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The pot amount is always on the screen when on-line so I think when I play live trying to keep track of the bets in the pot would be harder not faster, no?

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I think he meant faster than before he played online. IOW, he figures pot odds quicker at the B&M cardrooms now than he used to figure them at the B&M cardrooms. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that he figures them quicker at the B&M than online.

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But afte 3 and 4 tabling, the game seems SO SLOW live...

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ive seen someone multitable live for cash in a casino....

yeah you dont wanna know /images/graemlins/tongue.gif


nice post btw zulu, im heading back to b+m in a week or so so i might post up my own thoughts then

[SCfuji]

online has made me hate live play so much i rarely go. the only place i really play any live is vegas but that is because it is vegas.

[Guruman]

There are people around here (aaron W, Q tip, etc) who advocate one tabling for a few hours on a regular basis in order to help you sharpen your game.

I just got back from vegas (my first trip to play poker) and I have to say that three my days of live play was a great confidence booster and a nice tune up for my online play. All of the passive little old men made for an incredibly unintimidating experience, and I really got the chance to sit down and analyze some of the plays that I made, and that were being made against me.

I know for a fact that I would not have been able to make some of the moves online that I did live, because I still havent caught up to the speed of the online game on the higher levels of thinking yet. Live, I was able to sit back, think about why they had done what they had done, and react appropriately. I feel that this has helped my online game, and I plan to continue some live one tabling locally here in the future.

[zuluking]

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I still have not been to Argosy, but I'm too tired most days after working on my dissertation to even think of going to a card room. You been yet?

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I still haven't played the Argosy. I've been raping the Marksville game quite regularly. A few of us are going in 2 weeks.

[zuluking]

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20/12?

I'm buzzing around 21/8. Is "8" too low?

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I'm alot more aggressive than most, especially against loose/passive old men.

[zuluking]

[quoteI think he meant faster than before he played online. IOW, he figures pot odds quicker at the B&M cardrooms now than he used to figure them at the B&M cardrooms. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that he figures them quicker at the B&M than online.

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Correct.