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RustyCJ

11-13-2005, 01:56 PM

does the 3 bet on the flop tell me to slow down, I'm probably behind here? ? do I call the 3-bet and check the turn?

my plan was to lay it down on the turn if I was raised.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
4 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, Button folds, SB folds, Hero caps, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (14 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

numeri

11-13-2005, 02:01 PM

You're seriously considering laying down an overpair on the turn when you have no reads? Don't.

This is fine. If you lost to a set or 2pr, you must be up against some weak-tighties. Wow. I'm not even that weak-tight. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

RustyCJ

11-13-2005, 02:12 PM

I was going to lay it down because I capped the flop and if I'm popped again on the turn, I don't have much hope. When I wasn't raised on the turn I thought I was probably up against AJ.

And I lost to a set of 7s

numeri

11-13-2005, 02:22 PM

1) If you have no reads, call down. People will go nuts with flush draws and other crap. You also have outs vs 2pr.

2) CO is crazy weak-tight. He fears JJ from you. Wow. That's horrible! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

11-13-2005, 02:25 PM

You got to make a note about that guy. You can fold everything vs him if he raises now.

numeri

11-13-2005, 02:31 PM

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You got to make a note about that guy. You can fold everything vs him if he raises now.

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Absolutely. I'm wondering what he'll raise with? If you don't have the nuts and this guy raises, run. Just run away.

Mathieu

11-13-2005, 02:43 PM

I think this is standard with no reads.

CO's 3 bet does not worry me that much. He could have flopped a set but he could also have an AJ that he is trying to protect, or a strong flush draw that he decided to play aggressively. This raise is for value.

Also, don't fold to a single turn raise unless a bad card falls.

11-13-2005, 04:44 PM

grunch...

Reads help here a lot. I think you played it fine. you might be looking at 2 pair a lot here though. As the board is not paired on the river, I just might check/call and induce one last bet out of CO.