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11-12-2005, 08:29 PM
PP 10+1 sng, 6 handed
blinds 50/100

It is folded around to me in the small blind with 1300, villain has 2300.

Hero has: As3h

Hero raises to 400
villain calls
flop Qs6h4d
pot 800, I have about 800 - villain has about 1900

Now, this is a pretty good flop for me, not because I hit it but because it would be hard for him to hit it with any hand that would be calling a raise.

I want to move at this pot.

I was going to make a standard continuation bet (around 400). lately, however I have been mulling around the archives and have become familiar with the "35% rule" wherein (correct me if i am wrong) if you are going to make a bet that is greater than or equal to 35-40% of your stack - you should go all in.

So I went all in

Villain calls, showing Ks6c

Turn is a blank
River is a blank

Villain wins 2600 with a pair of sixes.


Thoughts?

tigerite
11-12-2005, 08:40 PM
I'd raise less preflop to not get myself in this situation. Not sure where you got this 35% rule from. I don't follow it anyway.

Also there's 800 and you have 800, for me that means it's equal to your stack and you want it.. but I wouldn't cont bet in a blinds battle on such a weird flop with A3o. That's just me though. Oh, I could also see an argument for pushing pf even with 13bb. But raising 500 just seems the worst option of all.

11-12-2005, 08:43 PM
How much would you raise preflop, and how would you act first on this flop?

35% rule(this has actually been pretty successful for me):
link (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=791416&page=30&view=c ollapsed&sb=7&o=all&vc=1)

valenzuela
11-12-2005, 08:45 PM
I would simply open push from the SB, raising to 300 leaves u in the same crappy "first to act" positon, however other stack need to be seen.
BTW I like ure play on the flop.

tigerite
11-12-2005, 08:49 PM
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How much would you raise preflop, and how would you act first on this flop?

35% rule(this has actually been pretty successful for me):
link (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=791416&page=30&view=c ollapsed&sb=7&o=all&vc=1)

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I'd either push or raise to between 250-275. On the flop, I'd probably check. What I do next depends on his bet if any. For instance if I sense weakness I may check-raise all-in.

FWIW I don't like the play on the flop much as it reeks of a bluff too much. It's Q64r. What would you push with here? What are you afraid of? Would you really play a Q so strong? Against what we assume to be a random hand of varying strength? Meh.. I can't see it personally.

se2schul
11-12-2005, 10:28 PM
If you read the rest of that thread, some very good players give good advice stating that the 35% rule applies to PF and not to after the flop.

Either bet less PF or fold PF.