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11-12-2005, 03:11 AM
True or False
If you can't beat bad player's (play chips), how can you expect to beat good ones (real money)!!!

randomstumbl
11-12-2005, 03:14 AM
Ha, this actually would have been a good poll.

It's true though. Only people that don't understand what poker is about would argue otherwise.

11-12-2005, 03:51 AM
i say FALSE.

ThinkQuick
11-12-2005, 04:30 AM
You will hear many people say that it is hard to beat novice players that don't act "like they should", but of course the statement you present is true.

You should be able to consistently beat play money tables before you are able to beat real money tables.

A player actually beating real money tables would be able to sit at play money and become a winning player at it, though some adjustments would be required.

11-12-2005, 06:23 AM
True. But if you play the right sites, you tend to find bad players with real money.

11-12-2005, 10:22 AM
True, but you can't use the same stragies in both arenas. People often try to use the same techniques to beat a bad player, as they would a good player...and thats just wrong. And thats when the statement becomes false.

AaronBrown
11-12-2005, 01:14 PM
While I agree it's prudent to be able to beat play money games consistently before risking real money, I don't agree that playing for real money is necessarily harder. A natural Poker player plays much better with real money, and better yet at higher stakes. Most people play worse the higher the stakes.

11-12-2005, 02:45 PM
Having recently made the transition from play money to real money, I have to say that the low levels of real money are easier than the high levels of play money. You actually have to be pretty good to turn 1000 play money chips into enough to throw 50000 at each tourney. Further, there's no bubble in play money, so a lot of intimidation techniques from real money just don't work.

ThinkQuick
11-12-2005, 07:08 PM
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While I agree it's prudent to be able to beat play money games consistently before risking real money, I don't agree that playing for real money is necessarily harder. A natural Poker player plays much better with real money, and better yet at higher stakes. Most people play worse the higher the stakes.

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interesting

11-13-2005, 01:10 AM
Deffinatley has to be true, though to play well with play money you need a much tighter style than with real money to counter the loosness of the tables.

11-13-2005, 11:49 PM
But, do you think you get a true measure of your ability or what works/doesn't work at a play money table?

Pog0
11-14-2005, 03:58 AM
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While I agree it's prudent to be able to beat play money games consistently before risking real money, I don't agree that playing for real money is necessarily harder. A natural Poker player plays much better with real money, and better yet at higher stakes. Most people play worse the higher the stakes.


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high stakes being a subjective term. I assume you mean that people play poorly when they play at a level higher than they're comfortable with. Ideally, the $ amounts attached to the SB and BB amounts should be irrelivant with respect to the decisions we make, however that's not always the case and this creates exploitable opportunities.

Kurn, son of Mogh
11-14-2005, 10:23 AM
True: If you can't beat bad players you can't beat good players. However, play chips results are irrelevant. All play money tables are good for is learning how the action proceeds at the table.

Guernica4000
11-14-2005, 10:48 AM
True, but only if you adjust your playing style and you play to win and not gamble.

pudley4
11-14-2005, 11:48 AM
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True or False
If you can't beat bad player's (play chips), how can you expect to beat good ones (real money)!!!

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Basically true; however...

There are certain types of players who can't beat play money games (becuuse they continually try to bluff and buy pots against players who will always call) but can beat a weak-tight lineup they might find in the upper low-limit games.

These players are NOT good poker players at all (because they don't understand why they're winning and they don't know how to adjust to their opponents), but by being a little more aggressive than their opponents, they're able to win extra pots with the worst hand.

MikeBandy
11-14-2005, 08:49 PM
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If you can't beat bad players you can't beat good players.

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Good point. I wish I’d said that.

Now I’d like to comment on another matter. A good player who has just opened an account at an online casino should consider using play money for ten or twenty minutes. Why not learn the mechanics of the site prior to having real money committed?