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Guruman
11-11-2005, 05:06 PM
Here's one that looks pretty crazy, but I'd like to get opinions on the river.

Dealt to <font color="BLUE">HERO</font> [4c 7s]
UTG - Folds
MP - Calls $1
CO - Calls $1
BUTTON - Calls $1
SB - Calls $0.50
<font color="BLUE">HERO</font> - Checks
*** FLOP *** [6d 4d 5d]
SB - Bets $1
<font color="BLUE">HERO</font> - Raises $2 to $2
MP - Folds
CO - Folds
BUTTON - Calls $2
SB - Calls $1

anyone fold instead of raising here?

*** TURN *** [6d 4d 5d] [As]
SB - Checks
<font color="BLUE">HERO</font> - Checks
BUTTON - Checks

When the turn checked through on an ace, I figured I was good so long as I didn't run into another flush card.

*** RIVER *** [6d 4d 5d As] [Kh]
SB - Checks
<font color="BLUE">HERO</font> ...

bet out and rep an overcard, or check and fold?
11-11-2005, 05:12 PM
I just fold on the flop. The pot is still small and you are OOP with 3 to a flush on the board. You do have bottom pair and an OESD. If I was in late position I would consider playing it, but with 3 still to act behind me and with the sb betting I'm still not crazy about my hand.
11-11-2005, 05:18 PM
I would check fold.
Guruman
11-11-2005, 06:46 PM
the discussion here was about whether I have any fold equity since I participated in the turn checkthrough. Can I get a naked 6 or 4 to fold here often enough to attempt the bluff?

I did raise the flop and I've got a nice scary board to work with. /images/graemlins/cool.gif
11-11-2005, 07:00 PM
Bet out.
Colonel Kataffy
11-11-2005, 07:21 PM
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Can I get a naked 6 or 4 to fold here often enough to attempt the bluff?


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I doubt it. I would guess that these opponents would only fold worse hands. I would check, if it is bet by the button and and called by the SB, then I'd fold. If it was bet and SB folded, I might call.

I do like flop raise.
pistol78
11-11-2005, 08:33 PM
Why not bet that Turn?
Guruman
11-11-2005, 09:33 PM
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Why not bet that Turn?

[/ QUOTE ] any diamond calls
milesdyson
11-11-2005, 10:15 PM
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Why not bet that Turn?

[/ QUOTE ] any diamond calls

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now justify your flop raise
Guruman
11-12-2005, 11:47 AM
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now justify your flop raise

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If I don't raise this flop then I have to fold, and no one has quite convinced me that I'm behind yet.
adsman
11-12-2005, 11:51 AM
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If I don't raise this flop then I have to fold...

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Why? I'll take one off here.
11-12-2005, 02:09 PM
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now justify your flop raise

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If I don't raise this flop then I have to fold, and no one has quite convinced me that I'm behind yet.

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I think milesdyson's point was that any diamond would call the flop raise too. If you're afraid of that on the turn, why weren't you afraid of it on the flop?

I don't mind the flop raise, but I think you've got to follow thru on the turn (unless of course a diamond comes). Then I think you can get the pairs to fold the river.