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Heimdal
11-11-2005, 02:50 PM
5/10 6 max

The small blind is a decent player. I havent seen him get out of line. I have seen him threebet all in with a draw on flop so I dont think thats what he has.
Earlier I opened to $35 on button, he made it $100 and I folded.
The big blind is a donkey.

If I called his flop threebet I would have $650 left. I folded. Bad or standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($247.75)
CO ($1160.75)
Hero ($1167.25)
SB ($1282)
BB ($560.75)
UTG ($1133.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, SB (poster) calls $30, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($105) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $475</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $785

ladykiller
11-11-2005, 03:03 PM
I think this is a good fold, I can't say that I'd fold it everytime though. But good lay down.

psuasskicker
11-11-2005, 04:07 PM
No chance he's hitting you with JT?

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Jonny
11-14-2005, 03:03 PM
I would never fold this.

kagame
11-14-2005, 03:04 PM
operating under such stern absolutes! that might have something to do with your results

Jonny
11-14-2005, 03:10 PM
well mabye if I had a read that the guy was a rock, but still, he is labeled as agressive. He could easily just have an overpair here and figures you are raising on a draw. Only against the weakest of weaks would I drop this. Even vs a straight, you still have ~35% equity if you stick it in on the flop.

diconoclastx
11-15-2005, 12:59 AM
This could be T9. I like to push here, even if he has a straight I can always suckout.

11-15-2005, 02:08 AM
I only occasionally play on party, mostly play a 500nl live, with 5/10 blinds.
Is raising to only 35 standard online in a 5/10 structure. Seems to me the pf raise shb 50+.
Second, you only have to call 300 to win 785. I would go all in here and if he flopped a straigt you still have 10 outs twice to win and clearly have odds to go.
I would push after his raise. You can't give up so quick. What do you think he put you on??? And you said he doesn't get out of line, well who calls raises with QJ??? Not me.
So do you think he has a bigger set?? Just curious???

Staycool
11-15-2005, 02:53 AM
Let's assume he has the straight every time. If you push (not necessarily optimal) EV= .35(650+785)-.65(950)= -115
So if he has the straight, moving in is -EV, but not by so much. IF he will call all-in with a hand like top two,
EV= .8(650+785)-.2(950)= 958. And you've also go nice EV v combo draw, because of the $ in the pot. It's close, but I'm inclined to push.

edited to fix incorrect math!

Allinlife
11-15-2005, 02:56 AM
really bad

push every time and expect many worse hands to call, suckout otherwise.

Heimdal
11-15-2005, 05:24 AM
My standard open in LP is $35. Some players miniraise, some players open to $40 or $45. In this hand I really didnt want the big blind to fold because he was bad and I had position with a decent hand, so I made a raise that he would call most of the time.

I folded on flop because I thought his range of hands had me crushed. My equity against a straight is big but if he had a bigger set im in bad shape.
Of course he could also be making a value raise with T9 or AA since he has no idea how strong I am.