View Full Version : "Official" Live at the Bike thread (11/10) (10/20 NL)
Kevmath
11-10-2005, 09:45 PM
Tonight's game is scheduled to be 10/20 NL, with a minimum buyin of $1000. Bart's told me there's a couple of action players, including someone who used to be a regular on the show that hasn't been seen in a while.
Last night's 50/100 NL "Whale Game" had what seemed like at least 10 $15k+ hands, with a few of those around the $25k range. Plenty of action to be had, except for Ed Shazarian. He takes down the largest pot on the show, spiking a flush on the river for about $28k, and then a couple hands later sticks an ultra-tight player to play his chips. He's the type of player you want in the game, but when he gets lucky he'll pull off the hit and run on the table. For those who want to see all the 5/10 NL hijinks, www.liveatthebike.com (http://www.liveatthebike.com) from 6-9pm PT. Hopefully tonight they'll actually start the show on time tonight and have a full 3 hours.
surfinillini
11-10-2005, 09:52 PM
I'm just wondering how much Barry finished up last night. He was staging a late session comeback after getting sucked out for 20K plus...we'll see if he is playing or posting tonight.
edit: Anyone wanna take a 10 minute over/under on how late their gonna start tonight?
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 09:55 PM
No Limit Ahoy!
Barron Vangor Toth
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(Hopes 1 week from tonight it's Limit Ahoy!)
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 09:56 PM
I really have tremendous respect for anyone who can handle the swings in this crazy game. It's a good thing Mr. Calloway golf wasn't there last night or he'd have gone off on Yosh about Ed again.
I only watch LATB every once in a while.
Just curious, how often do the "big name" poker players play on there?
On the highlight reel, there are several TV players that are on that but I have yet to see one when I have time to tune in.
Thanks.
Barry had one of the worst nights I have ever seen anyone have.
Kevmath
11-10-2005, 10:04 PM
There were quite a few around when Legends was being held. Sometimes the Friday shows will have someone like Kenna James.
Wednesday/Friday are the nights you're more like to see a known player since the games are higher limit NL games those nights.
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:04 PM
I've probably only averaged 1 episode/week since they debuted, but I've seen Barry Greenstein a few times, ditto Tuan Lee, Hassan Habib, and Greg Raymer.
And what's-her-name from Full Tilt that Tuch thinks is the greatest player ever (not) was in that one episode reading a book...
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 10:06 PM
Nice to see Gor has finally gotten over getting crushed by Barry. And a Bartgasm on the first hand as 72sooted busts Mo's pocket aces. Nice suckout.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 10:08 PM
Oh boy - 7-2 wins!! First Bartgasm.
Kevmath
11-10-2005, 10:08 PM
Yet another early Bartgasm on the show, nice of George to play the royal hammer and suck out.
spsurfin_Michael
11-10-2005, 10:11 PM
Mo looked really disgusted when he was pullling out freh chips for the re-buy.
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:12 PM
I'm not sure I can trust that Tuch's standards are high for women when he considered Dennis Quaid and Vince Van Patten to be major celebrities...
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
spsurfin_Michael
11-10-2005, 10:12 PM
Russ should be back tonight correct?
Kevmath
11-10-2005, 10:14 PM
I'd have thought Russ would be back last night, maybe queen will have an answer to that.
surfinillini
11-10-2005, 10:15 PM
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I'm not sure I can trust that Tuch's standards are high for women when he considered Dennis Quaid and Vince Van Patten to be major celebrities...
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yea...LMAO
Forget the Hollywood celebrities, I think those hotties that were at the party in G strings would be more interesting to watch!
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 10:22 PM
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Russ should be back tonight correct?
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Nope. Paul P. stole my thunder.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Avo's getting out some raisin chips.
chuddo
11-10-2005, 10:22 PM
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Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
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hey barron, i don't like reading this every single time you post. it is kind of spam-ish and no one else is doing that. could you cease?
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:23 PM
Bart, every 30 minutes, should say:
He's got raisin' chips.
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Barron what is that website of yours? What is that game you created??
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:30 PM
WWE Raw Deal (http://www.comicimages.com/rawdeal/)
My personal site hasn't been updated in a few months due to my webmaster having a million and six personal issues going on. Hopefully it will get back on track once I get back from Vegas / California.
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 10:32 PM
Looks interesting.
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 10:35 PM
Careful Tuch, you may be next on the banned list.
spsurfin_Michael
11-10-2005, 10:35 PM
The phone rang and I missed the end of a hand.
Who won the AK vs AJ hand?
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:36 PM
It's a collectible card game (like Magic: The Gathering, except wrestling vs. fantasy) - that's why I'm going out to California next week, for a convention featuring the game. And it's also why I spend far too much time on my computer working on said game at all hours of the night.
All of that takes a backseat to Bart saying:
"He's got out some raisin' chips."
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
I LOVE David Tuchman's tie! Saw him at the party last night - he was talkin' to some serious hotties. A great announcer, a great poker player and just a great 'player'. The man can do it all.
And he supports free speech.
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:38 PM
Ah, misconceptions.
Speech isn't really free.
(Nor do we live in a democracy.)
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
What I want to know, is did Tuchman show Fred Muller's sister what it meant to be all-in?
Eurotrash
11-10-2005, 10:41 PM
wow, Gor makes his glorious return to L@tb. I've been waiting for this day.
wm r the rake
11-10-2005, 10:42 PM
what was the website again to check out that fine babe??
spsurfin_Michael
11-10-2005, 10:44 PM
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Ah, misconceptions.
Speech isn't really free.
( Nor do we live in a democracy .)
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
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Exactly. We live in a Republic.
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:47 PM
Check out the big brain on Brad.
Barron Vangor Toth
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The_Bends
11-10-2005, 10:52 PM
Dear god even at NL1000 people don't understand that checking the hand down when in a sidepot only applies in some tourney situations not cash games.
Hey is there any way that you can can add some graphics that show where the button is also how much is person has bet at each round of action? A total pot count would be nice too.
gonebroke
11-10-2005, 10:55 PM
Hey Bart and Dave,
Please get a ruling on that raise. I was playing about 2 weeks ago at the Bike and I was involved with a pot against Ed regarding this very situation. Three of us saw a flop and player A checked, I checked, and Ed bet 150. Player A went all in for a total of 180 and I called under the impression Ed could not reraise. Ed said he could, player A said he could, and the dealer said he could. Ed ended up reraising all in and pushed me out. What is the ruling on that?
I mean to me that is like being dealt 83 and folding preflop and when the board comes 883 you say oh I could have won. I mean stuff like that happens. He made the correct laydown. Sometimes you have to laydown the winning hand.
Will be interesting to see if that has an effect on his play to where maybe he will call down more hands?
wm r the rake
11-10-2005, 10:57 PM
thanks for the reply
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 10:57 PM
There are a few rules in every casino that will vary from floorman to floorman. What they're discussing is one of those rules.
Barron Vangor Toth
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scrapperdog
11-10-2005, 11:00 PM
http://www.rgpfaq.com/no-limit.html
There are the rules for raising in NL.
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 11:00 PM
donkdonkdonk
Avo's gettin' out some raisin' chips...
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 11:00 PM
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Hey is there any way that you can can add some graphics that show where the button is also how much is person has bet at each round of action? A total pot count would be nice too.
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There isn't at this time.
Kudos for that reraise. This is a part of my game that I wish was a whole lot better, picking up on an odd play like that (limp-reraising from the cut-off).
BarronVangorToth
11-10-2005, 11:01 PM
Looks like it's going to be a good night.
Alas, I must leave.
Everyone remind Bart to reference the raisin' chips.
Night all.
Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com
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thanks for the reply
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No prob
Kevmath
11-10-2005, 11:03 PM
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what was the website again to check out that fine babe??
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http://pokergirls.hollywoodpoker.com/calendar-girls/erin-muller-interview.html
Do you mean:
1. there isnt a way to do this
2. there are no plans to do this
3. they don't want to do this
It would make it a lot easier to follow the action if they maybe highlighted the name of the game last to act. Plus indicating each person's action at each betting round would make things much easier to follow as well. That would the announcers can focus on commentary rather than the play by play.
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 11:07 PM
The software they use doesn't prohibit it. Also keeping track of pot sizes is too difficult a task to get shown on the screen quick enough to matter.
Yeah you're right about the pot size thing, but indicating who is last to act along with each player's action at each betting round would be real helpful. So what you're saying is that the software they use won't allow this?
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:15 PM
I don't think they would be able to enter the data fast enough. I could be wrong. They could have some kind of tablet system that might work.
Can we have more shots of you guys? the announcers? tuchman's tie is just too cute.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:18 PM
Live is so much better. The ESPN edited KK vs 99 or AQ suited vs 44 is getting very old.
Cool, thanks for the explanation on the graphics guys. Yeah I figured it had something to do with the whole "live" aspect of things. ESPN/WPT should do the button and action indicator thing though. Good job overall, keep it up boys.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:21 PM
Do these guys care about kickers. unbelievable.
whalekock
11-10-2005, 11:21 PM
Is Carlos tonights douche du jour.
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 11:22 PM
Great shot of Demigod George with the total befuddlement look.
whalekock
11-10-2005, 11:23 PM
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Do these guys care about kickers. unbelievable.
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as much as Fantasy Football gamers do.
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 11:23 PM
I love my kicker. (Neil Rackers)
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:24 PM
I'll repost the article someone was kind enough to link to last night on raising for information. For your reading pleasure Bart and Tuch.
http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/issue10/ives1005.html
Well, at least highlighting the name of the player who is last to act?
queenwithatrey
11-10-2005, 11:26 PM
Still takes too long. They can't just click on the name and something happens. Its like a text box. They'd have to manually do something to notate the last to act EVERY SINGLE HAND. It's much easier to just say "Button is on Tony" or "Button is in seat 3".
Bart,
The question kind of morphed into "is it ever correct to raise ONLY for information?" Ex: you've got TPWK or middle pair and want to see if anybody out there has you beat. However, in this situation, you also want people to fold, nullifying the "ONLY for information" part.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:29 PM
I imagine raising for information can get you in trouble by exposing you to a reraise bluff.
If you have say JJ and the flop is K 3 8 rainbow, do you raise here if last to act??
We can't criticize you. We get banned if we do.
whalekock
11-10-2005, 11:31 PM
California is filled with trust fund babies and young entertainment types. Or they give "massages" on Santa Monica Blvd.
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Barron Vangor Toth
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hey barron, i don't like reading this every single time you post. it is kind of spam-ish and no one else is doing that. could you cease?
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I agree.
edge
EDGE
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edge
edge
Signatures are annoying and useless. If I want to know who wrote the post, I can check the username.
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:37 PM
Nobody cared last night about my trivia about the Earl of Sandwich inventing the sandwich so he could eat while staying at the gambling table. - true story.
Think about that the next time you are at a table and see a fat lardo stuffing their face while cold calling your raise.
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Nobody cared last night about my trivia about the Earl of Sandwich inventing the sandwich so he could eat while staying at the gambling table. - true story.
Think about that the next time you are at a table and see a fat lardo stuffing their face while cold calling your raise.
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No seriously, are you kidding me? That is too dam funny to believe almost. Cite your source sir! (please)
Btw, that whole etymology of "the nuts" was fascinating. Can anyone corroborate that story?
Some of these guys are incredibly loose.
Bart - I'd rather be a Pats fan than a Jets fan. Stand up for your team. Just ask dave when the last time the words "Jets" and "dynasty" were used in the same sentence without laughter.
Even my bad poker playin' self would have check-raised an aggressive player like Carlos.
Wow, if you guys wanna talk about football, I wanna get some sympathy for being a Chargers fan. God bless them, but I mean, has there been a more underachieving team in the NFL?
I heard them say something about the people getting the stake from wealthy business men...Why though?
Russ McGinley
11-10-2005, 11:53 PM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6739/905backintown3fp.jpg
I'M BAAAAAAAAACK
t_petrosian
11-10-2005, 11:54 PM
the play at this table seems pretty weak, actually
I think what he was saying was that there are some wealthy guys that stake some of these younger guys their bankroll in exchange for a piece of their action. Get it?
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:56 PM
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No seriously, are you kidding me? That is too dam funny to believe almost. Cite your source sir! (please)
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Earl of Sandwich source
Against The Gods - The Remarkable Story of Risk by Peter Bernstein page 12
Great book btw.
whalekock
11-10-2005, 11:56 PM
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I heard them say something about the people getting the stake from wealthy business men...Why though?
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"Massages" dude.
spsurfin_Michael
11-10-2005, 11:56 PM
Welcome Back Russ /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I'M BAAAAAAAAACK
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I understand that, but if he has enough money to stake someone $3000 why bother? The winnings wouldnt be too much for him, would it?
cwsiggy
11-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Russ - are you dissapointed there wasn't a 10,000 view thread with a poll about your banning???
whalekock
11-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Has Tony folded a hand yet? Plus Welcome back Russ.
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:00 AM
There would have been. I have the LATB viewers behind me. Sadly Paul Phillips jumped in and stole it all away. I coulda been a contenda.
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 12:00 AM
Well some of us were very vocal about it--both via PM and threads. Dynasty's ass must be sore from the beating he deserved.
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Russ - are you dissapointed there wasn't a 10,000 view thread with a poll about your banning???
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cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:01 AM
I demand the Paul Phillips vs Mason tiff gets settled with a heads up triple draw match. Phillips would be way favored.
Yeah maybe you're right. You're point is that if you're wealthy enough to stake someone a few thousand, then what is it to you if that person makes a few thousand and splits it half with you? Like, relative to your wealth, whats another few thousand right? Yeah I get that point, but maybe it's to help the player you're staking to develop and get into even bigger games? Anyone else have any ideas?
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:03 AM
I appreciate everybody sticking up for me.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:05 AM
Love the avatar.
I think staking is a losing proposition in the long run. Lederer doesn't even do it anymore. I think if you have the dough, it's more as a favor and not an investment. Just ask Ted Forrest.
what night do you think is the best night to watch Live at the Bike?
So is there a story behind this whole banning thing? And plus, I don't think anyone was really thinking that "Russ is a nice guy" comment had any man-on-man connotations, so you're safe there pal. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 12:07 AM
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what night do you think is the best night to watch Live at the Bike?
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Wednesday and Friday nights are best.
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:11 AM
I was banned because my avatar was a cartoon-ish pic of Tiffany Williamson with a donkey face.
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:11 AM
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what night do you think is the best night to watch Live at the Bike?
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Friday nights, then Wednesdays.
You haven't really watched L@TB until you see Jesus, Corporation Mike, Diablo, etc. in the game.
sillyarms
11-11-2005, 12:11 AM
YES!! for the hu cash games.
surfinillini
11-11-2005, 12:12 AM
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what was the website again to check out that fine babe??
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Glad to see moving the thread really sparked the fire of serious poker discussion /images/graemlins/smile.gif
At the risk of sounding ignorant, who's Tiffany Williamson? And, why is that cause to be banned? Sorry, don't want to seem like I'm trying to pry, but I want to know how far I can go before I get banned, lol. Oh, and welcome back!
t_petrosian
11-11-2005, 12:15 AM
is there a max buy-in in this game?
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:15 AM
She finished 15th in the WSOP. She was largely unliked around the 'net (and at the event) due to her taking extremely long times to make decisions (upwards of fifteen minutes). I saw the pic posted in one of those threads and I thought it was funny, so I made it my avatar and was suspended several days later. I'm guessing its because someone complained to Dynasty.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:16 AM
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lol Oh well. Sometimes we just like to zone out.
I don't anticipate Kane Kung Fu or EL Diablo joining in anytime soon.
Oh yeah, I remember her, she was up against aces and had to get the clock called on her until her hand was killed. Wow, that sounds really harsh to ban you just for that. Did you at least get a warning? Who's Dynasty?
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:19 AM
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EL Diablo joining in anytime soon.
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You mean that guy who wears a t-shirt promoting his plumbing company?
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:20 AM
No, I received no warning. I am also not 100% sure this was the exact reason, as I was never given an exact reason.
Dynasty is the mod of the WPT forum.
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 12:20 AM
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Glad to see moving the thread really sparked the fire of serious poker discussion /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Witht he time delay, it is hard to get much detailed discussion going. New hands going down make it hard to keep contunity.
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:20 AM
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is there a max buy-in in this game?
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There's no max buyin for this game, the same goes for the 5/10 NL game which has a $500 min buyin.
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:22 AM
Last night's thread had a lot more discussion in it (and views). I guess the fact it was 50/100 NL helped quite a bit as well
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:24 AM
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haha - He probably makes just as much as 2+2's high stakes poster El Diablo
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:25 AM
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cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:26 AM
Back to the Amish farm.
Hulk music please........
surfinillini
11-11-2005, 12:27 AM
unbelievable, calls off 8.5K with straight on a SCARY board /images/graemlins/frown.gif
whoa haha crazy pot...!
I swear that over betting the nuts move was born online.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:28 AM
These people really need to read books. Wait a sec, no , don't read books, keep playing this way!!!
Whats the minimum buy-in?
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:30 AM
I knew you were kidding Kevmath.....
arvin
11-11-2005, 12:32 AM
Andrew Vs Carlos hand. Dave and Bart, Andrew did get himself in trouble, BUT Carlos could have easily got himself in trouble going all in on a 9 high flush vs. a higher flush. I've seen many low flushes cracked by nut flushes etc. Carlos should not be praised for that overbet on the river. He would have looked like a donkey if Andrew had a higher flush.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:33 AM
"Beware the low flush" - Lederer's vid
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 12:38 AM
Ahh that was a nice Bartgasm
Hey if you buy the live at the bike registration, can you download all of the episodes to your computer? would be cool to burn to DVD or something and watch on the big screen ..
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:44 AM
lollercoaster! nice call by the Bill Fillmaff.
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Look out, here comes another one! Is Carlos drawing dead?
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:45 AM
OMG - What is seat 5 doing!!!
Devastation!!!!
whalekock
11-11-2005, 12:46 AM
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OMG - What is seat 5 doing!!!
Devastation!!!!
[/ QUOTE ]watch runner runner straight
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:46 AM
Carlos, Gor, and Tony are headed for whitewater! They're gonna be talking about this dramatic hand for the next 500 years!
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:47 AM
If you use something like WMRecorder, or something like that, I'm sure you can save the shows and burn them to DVD.
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:47 AM
Cards %win %lose %tie Pot equity Odds
5c 5h 75.37 24.63 0.00 75.40% 3.07:1
Js Kh 3.66 96.34 0.00 3.70% 0.04:1
Qh 4h 7.07 92.68 0.24 7.20% 0.08:1
Qc 7c 13.66 86.10 0.24 13.80% 0.16:1
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:48 AM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEW IT!!!!!!!
Devastation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:48 AM
BARTGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whalekock
11-11-2005, 12:48 AM
Tony is Jesus's dad
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:49 AM
That's a hand they'll be talking about for the next 50 years!
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:50 AM
He should thank his lucky stars he even made money on that hand. Thank the donkey is seat 5.
idrinkcoors
11-11-2005, 12:51 AM
Dang,
I tune in just now, and THIS is the first hand I see? Has it been like this all night? Unbelievable.
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 12:51 AM
What ana amazing hand. I am just stunned
arvin
11-11-2005, 12:53 AM
I hope that the Huge Play with Carlos, George, Mo, and Tony demonstrates that Carlos is a huge donkey. Excellent commentary DAVE AND BART!!!!!!!!! I love your enthusiasm.
Python49
11-11-2005, 12:54 AM
I love how earlier they tried to make it seem like Carlos was a genius for pushing with 9/3 with his flush, when really he's just a donkey who got some other guy to make a bad call.
I thought that was her real face!
arvin
11-11-2005, 12:55 AM
I hope that george is not on tilt, he's acting pissed off and I hope he doesn't piss his stack away.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 12:56 AM
I don't think Pokerstove can do dead cards can it????
BTW - very dissapointed we haven't seen the pooside
babe ad. Is that shown only on Wednesday??
Kevmath
11-11-2005, 12:56 AM
The last two nights have been filled with huge hands, I think we're talking at least 10 hands that have resulted in 20k pots, with quite a few in the 10k area.
gonebroke
11-11-2005, 12:57 AM
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I love how earlier they tried to make it seem like Carlos was a genius for pushing with 9/3 with his flush, when really he's just a donkey who got some other guy to make a bad call.
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I agree. Carlos would not fold that flush if you put a gun to his head. He is a donkey who got lucky tonight. He will be broke soon.
God I can't believe this show. I tune in like 3 times and this is the kind of action I see EVERY time. You guys are right. Best. Poker. Show. Period.
'Nuff said.
Tell me about it. Got back within 6K of my 30K buy in and then lost it on another 2 hands with the best of it. Pocket Kings with a Q high flop, ace on the turn, 6 on the river. With all the betting and raising one would have thought I had at least a Q with a decent kicker. The clown was calling and raising with a friggin Q6!!
The other hand was that I had KJ, flop was JJ7, turn a 7. Now I have the full house. Does it win? NOOOOOOOOOO! Another 7 on the river for Ed, the douchebad holding 74 to beat my full house with quads.
Was not my night. Really brought my winning streak to an abrupt skid. Hopefully, tomorrow I will play well and the suckouts will be less.
Incidentally, guys, quit ragging on Shirley. She is one of the brightest players out there with street cred, and wins to prove it. You may disaggree with her analysis, that does not make her stupid or a bad player. She sees thinks that you may not, and a deeper analysis is always welcomed. So, be civil, or I'll get off the table and come beat your silly a$$!
Python49
11-11-2005, 01:02 AM
first time watching live at the bike.. can someone tell me if i have to pay to see the archievs.. just wondering
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 01:03 AM
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The other hand was that I had KJ, flop was JJ7, turn a 7. Now I have the full house. Does it win? NOOOOOOOOOO! Another 7 on the river for Ed, the douchebad holding 74 to beat my full house with quads.
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Good god. Guess being a 989-1 favorite isn't quite good enough.
cwsiggy
11-11-2005, 01:03 AM
Good luck tomorrow Barry.
WELCOME BACK RUSS. WE LOVE YA MAN!
spsurfin_Michael
11-11-2005, 01:07 AM
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Incidentally, guys, quit ragging on Shirley. She is one of the brightest players out there with street cred, and wins to prove it. You may disaggree with her analysis, that does not make her stupid or a bad player. She sees thinks that you may not, and a deeper analysis is always welcomed. So, be civil, or I'll get off the table and come beat your silly a$$!
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I agree. Shirley really does do a very good job.
Good to be back everyone....thanks for watching and for your support. It's nice to be in a new area - hopefully more people will enjoy the show now. As far as I'm concerned, the more people watch, the more people post about it - the more we all learn.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to send me a private message.
Once again, thanks! See ya tomorrow night for our crazy friday night!!!
Rick Nebiolo
11-11-2005, 05:51 AM
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Hey Bart and Dave,
Please get a ruling on that raise. I was playing about 2 weeks ago at the Bike and I was involved with a pot against Ed regarding this very situation. Three of us saw a flop and player A checked, I checked, and Ed bet 150. Player A went all in for a total of 180 and I called under the impression Ed could not reraise. Ed said he could, player A said he could, and the dealer said he could. Ed ended up reraising all in and pushed me out. What is the ruling on that?
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If these facts are right then there is NO WAY Ed can raise. This wouldn't even be allowed in limit poker (where a raise of half or more re-opens the betting). Next time call the floor.
~ Rick
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Carlos, Gor, and Tony are headed for whitewater! They're gonna be talking about this dramatic hand for the next 500 years!
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sorry wasnt able to tune in tonight. anyone care to explain what went on in this hand? was it better than last night when Tim Phan was handed the straight to him on a silver platter by that trapping fellow? (forgot his name) thanks.
RikaKazak
11-11-2005, 09:39 AM
I'm watching the 7,2 vs. AA episode, and would just like to say CAN WE GET NEW COMMENTATORS!!!!!!!!!!! These ones SUCK AT POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also the play is just horrible.
On one hand a guy raised with AKo to $220 another called with AJo, flopped ace, AK bets, AJ raises, AK calls, turn AK leads, AJ folds. Everyone thinks that it's a good lay down with AJ and he made a good play. If you think that way, YOU SUCK AT POKER!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD, the correct play was to fold AJo to a 11 times bb raise pf. (and yes I know it was straddled)
Russ McGinley
11-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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Carlos, Gor, and Tony are headed for whitewater! They're gonna be talking about this dramatic hand for the next 500 years!
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sorry wasnt able to tune in tonight. anyone care to explain what went on in this hand? was it better than last night when Tim Phan was handed the straight to him on a silver platter by that trapping fellow? (forgot his name) thanks.
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I don't remember the preflop action but the hands were:
Gor: Q4s
Carlos: Bill Fillmaff
Tony: Q7s
George 55
Flop: Q-7-5r
Gor moved all-in for like $200. Carlos decides to call for no good reason. George raises another like $500. Tony calls. Gor starts to get up, puts his jacket on. Carlos RERAISES because he's got a backdoor straight draw. George moves all-in. Tony calls. Carlos calls.
Turn: 7
River: blank
BartHanson
11-11-2005, 04:31 PM
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I'm watching the 7,2 vs. AA episode, and would just like to say CAN WE GET NEW COMMENTATORS!!!!!!!!!!! These ones SUCK AT POKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also the play is just horrible.
On one hand a guy raised with AKo to $220 another called with AJo, flopped ace, AK bets, AJ raises, AK calls, turn AK leads, AJ folds. Everyone thinks that it's a good lay down with AJ and he made a good play. If you think that way, YOU SUCK AT POKER!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD, the correct play was to fold AJo to a 11 times bb raise pf. (and yes I know it was straddled)
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I'm glad you got a chance to finally watch the show. Thanks for the warm words.
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